Evening, we are from ukraine. We continue, this is a big ether, there is a lot of interesting and important ahead, of course, there will be sports news, usyks historic victory, campaign news, and there will also be an inclusion of the 22nd meeting of the ramshtein group, which takes care of weapons, support for. Ukraine, but now about a few so precisely important political topics, domestic political, even to a greater extent, that we cannot but discuss today. Viktor bobarenko, expert of the bureau of policy analysis. Mr. Viktor, i congratulate you. Good health to you. Glad to see and hear. Let me tell you this number right away may 20 5 years of zelenskyis presidency, president zelenskyi have passed and are passing today, and the russians are already starting to speed up this informational psycho operation, come on, i ll quote it again, with a push from both sides, i dont i will say, as they say about ours the president , they have no right to say anything about him, we elect him, and we will elect the president when it is possible, how, why did the russians become so active, first of all, and how to act, how to understand what should happen tomorrow, because tomorrow will be may 21, and according to the constitution it is no longer 5 years, but we understand that it cannot be otherwise now, that is, he is still the president and commanderinchief. Please, well, we dont care what people think of russia and putin, so its up to us to elect the president and to consider him legitimate there or not, and this should not bypass the russians in any way, we will decide it, these will be our allies, no one blames us, because everyone understands that Holding Elections at this time, well , the law does not allow it, and it is extremely difficult. Because it is not known how, it is not clear, how to vote, so everything is fine, we have zelenskyis legitimacy, the only thing that should be advised to the same zelenskyi is to relate, he said that all president s, yes , so that it is possible for him to be the most logical, the most logical for him would be to create a government of National Unity tomorrow, if he really. Doesnt like poroshenko, well, he cant change himself and sit down at the same table with poroshenko, there with other political leaders, because of yulia tymoshenkos voice, well, okay, appoint a government of technocrats, take to there, serhiy fursa was your minister of finance, yes, who are not connected to political parties, so that there, for example, zhodan or oksana zabushko were ministers of ku. Well , he will decide on a few more positions. We mean that such a government would add legitimacy to zelenskyi, and not take away this legitimacy, but this is the problem of volodymyr oleksandrovich, how evenhanded he is, how narcissistic he is, that. He cannot go to this step, but it would be very good and crazy, well, this is his choice, well, i do not believe that he will go to create a government of National Unity, but it would be necessary, you know, you said this phrase that if he does not can sit at the same table as president poroshenko, well, the president is a lifelong title, thats why we say president poroshenko is there, but i remember very well, because i prepared materials and i remember very well the first day of the war, even before. The first day of the invasion was fullscale, and there were such words that president zelensky pressed and held poroshenkos hand for a long time when, when, in fact, it was critical. The situation and then for some reason they sat at the table and consulted and listened to advice and agreed to stop the political confrontation and forget to announce a truce, but now of course the situation is not like that, although it is also threatening. Second, you say that the a government so technocratic and efficient that has the trust of the public, at least as of now, would be very important for zelensky, for his strengthening above all, but yes. One person who strengthens or not strengthens, it is difficult for me to say, but who is around him, a person who said that i want to be the shadow of the president and do everything he tells me, andriy yermak, and here is the Washington Post edition, after blinkens visit, an article was published where it was said that irmak, in fact, is a person who has enormous power, the most of all head of the president s office for all time, who decides everything herself and. Does not ask for forgiveness, in my opinion, she does not apologize, Something Like that was said there, and please explain it, well, because such a Washington Post article, it its definitely not just the journalists who decided, lets write about yermak, lets go, its a more complicated story, please, well, i agree with the conclusions of the journalists that he is the most influential person in history, lets say there is the office of the head of the office or there. The president ial administration, this position is was called differently at different times, but here it is not limited power, and the government, the verkhovna rada, and worst of all, the Law Enforcement and judicial system are managed from the president s office, but worst of all, what would i appreciate in 5 years for zelensky, i would say that zelensky, despite everything, until february of this year did not interfere. In the affairs of the military, he did not draw arrows on the globe, er, and this was his advantage over putin, now, well, insiders report, and it seems to me that yermak has already begun to influence the process of acceptance, preparation, acceptance, implementation management decisions in the army, and there is nothing worse than politicians begin to manage the military. Give general orders, as the Supreme Commander must, yes, what is there like, and specifically here we are advancing, at the operational level, as far as i understand, and at the tactical level, not only at the operational, at the tactical level, well, if they are already included in replacement of brigade commanders, then this is already going too far, this is mr. Viktor, we will continue the conversation with you, i am just now, we will pause in our dialogue, and we will listen. Moloyd austin, the head of the pentagon , the 22nd ramsteim is going on at the moment, we have the opportunity to listen to the final press conference of the head of the ministry of defense of the United States of america. What ukraine needs. Security, a Security Package of 7 billion dollars has also already been announced, this will contribute to national security. We also deliver what ukraine urgently needs now. Especially the 155mm projectiles and a lot more are already on the way, so we have been thinking about the longterm challenges for ukrainian security, and we are really impressed by how united we are working, this coalition, it looks ahead and it expects what they can to be the needs of ukraine in the future, so we must look for ways to ensure that our aid. Arrives without interruption, and to deter russian aggression in the future. Today we heard another update from the naval coalition, we also talked about the sky defense initiative. What does it mean . This means that ukraines partners will try to find ways to provide what they can and to add additional ones. Spare parts and, ultimately , technical support, so we are aiming for ukraine to be able to fight back, fight back putins attacks. Within the framework of the coalition of powers, we really maintain a flexible structure in order to help ukraine in general and in the long term. We gathered nations of goodwill from all over the world so that ukraine could survive. And actually this is in order for us to show the whole world why ukraine is important. Ukraine plays a significant role for the sake of European Security and on a large scale. We cannot live in a world where autocrats act and do as they please, the days of empires are over, so i want to make it clear that we are more united than ever and we determined to help ukraine, we are not going anywhere, we are with ukraine, and i will give the floor to general brown. Thank you, mr. Minister, i congratulate you. Yes, when the First World War was ending, wilson spoke loudly about the world order and in his speech he stated that political independence depends on territorial integrity, which is based on the association of nations, this is the only way to defeat the aggressors, he said that we cannot be divided common, divided by interests, we have them. To be together and so on until the end. I am quoting him today, but president wilson never thought that after so many years, today there would be exactly the coalition that was based on his remarks, but we see how much more brutal, how much more aggressive is the war that we are facing now. Therefore, the points that president wilson spoke about, which are necessary for the sake of the international order, we are living them now, this order has shaken. Illegal and unprovoked aggression by russia, and the Contact Group on the defense of ukraine today together, as we look in the face of this russian aggression, we we will continue to support ukraine in this way in order to protect the international order, i want to thank the minister very much, it was loyt austin and the head of the pentagon and charles brown, the head of the joint chiefs of staff. Headquarters of the army of the United States of america, continue to help ukraine, this is very important, in total, 95 billion dollars have already been spent on military support for ukraine, and we, mr. Volo, mr. Viktor, returning to our conversation, already moving into this perspective, it is clear that ramshtein there are many technical points discussed related to the needs of the front and what can be given now, where it can be taken, and the question is very important whether the instructors. Troops can enter ukraine, and it is very important, probably more important, whether ukraine will be given permission to use the weapons of the United States of america on the territory of russia, or, lets say, to break up or at least significantly thin out the russian groups on that side of kharkiv oblast and belgorod oblast, this might significantly stop we were attacked by the enemy on may 10, 10, and i think that this is such a permission for us. Not only that, there today in sumy oblast, they shot down that side , they flew a beech out of order, they shot down, i hope there will be such permission not only from the british and the United States, but the towers there will also be given to us. Sooner or later, germany will give the so called red lines, all of them or how overtons windows are getting bigger and bigger. This will not have any consequences, the only bad thing is that all these permits should have been given to us two years ago, then the war would have gone differently, but unfortunately, the west is dragging its feet for a very long time, as for the possibility of their to the troops, that too, that too the opening of the same overton windows, yes, there is Something Like that, lets go. First these instructors will come, then something else, well, ideally for us it would be good if they closed the sky for us, for example, well, at least there somewhere to to kyiv, yes, and we could already use the patriots right here on the border, protecting sumy, kharkiv, defending in the south for zaporizhzhia, odesa, kherson and mykolaiv, well, and i think that further, further it is. Right here the main thing is that our society does not freeze, because everyone is tired of the war, and allies, and well, both the army and society, but it is important that the russians get tired first. Thank you very much, mr. Viktor, viktor boberenko was with us from sumy region, the head of the policy analysis bureau, a political scientist, we talked about important, briefly, but essentially important things, now i am literally speechless. Lets add Serhii Rudenko to the conversation, at 8 00 p. M. The verdict program traditionally starts and what is todays subpoena serhii, please tell me, good evening to you, good evening to vasyl, today. We are talking about 5 years of zelenskyis presidency, because it was exactly 5 years ago, may 19, 20 in 2019, president zelenskyi was sworn in about his achievements, defeats, results of the first fiveyear term of zelenskyi, we will talk in the next two hours. In the first part of our program, we will have a politician, diplomat, former minister of Foreign Affairs of ukraine volodymyr ogrysko, we will talk with him about ramstein, which is happening today, and there is talk about the support of western partners to ukraine, and about the plane crash in iran, where he died yesterday president and with his retinue ricey, and this president has always supported aggressive the kremlins policy, this is the same president who authorized aid, military aid to russia, what will this. Have consequences for the socalled axis of evil, which includes russia, iran, north korea and china, and how it will affect the alignment forces, in particular in the middle east, because this is also very important, because in 50 days a new president of iran must be elected. Among the topics that we will talk and discuss with mr. Ogrysk is permission from our western partners. Hit with their weapons, their weapons on the territory of the russian federation, the United States america, Great Britain are talking about the fact that it is possible, under what conditions it is possible, and most importantly, what results it can give, how it will affect the course of the russianukrainian war, we will also talk about the election of the president of taiwan, and in the second part of the program, which will begin at 21 15, will be the traditional hour of comments, main events. I will comment live for 45 minutes, starting at 21 15 after the bbc news broadcast, we will talk about everything and about 5 years of zelenskyis presidency, about who is currently running ukraine and how actually, the mobilization law came into effect on may 18, 2024. Wait, in 12 minutes we will start our broadcast. Vasyl winters Big Broadcast continues, stay tuned. With espresso, vasyl, you have a word. Thank you very much, sergey. Serhii rudenko at 8 p. M. Well, the ukrainian wrote a few sentences so precisely in a book about the history of world boxing. Yevhen pastakhov will tell about the event, which really became historic. Yevgeny, good evening, please. Good evening. Vasyl, congratulations, dear viewers of the tv channel. In fact, Oleksandr Usyk gave an incredible holiday, and it was about boxing well talk in a moment. The best boxer in the world regardless of weight category, this is about Oleksandr Usyk, today the best fighter on the planet, our fighter was recognized by the authoritative boxing magazine the ring, at the weekend usyk won a historic match for the title of absolute World Champion in boxing. The ukrainian outboxed the british tyson fury and won the victory by split decision of the judges. It was. Spectacular, dramatic and chic match. In it, usyk once again demonstrated, probably, his two key boxing virtues. Of course, very high class and character. The key in the confrontation was the ninth round, when the referee seemingly saved fury from a knockout. The world boxing community continues to enjoy the powerful series of blows of the ukrainian, which forced fury to get lost in space and simply fall on the ropes. Wbc belt replenished. To usyks title collection, which also includes the wba, ibf and wbo titles. I was only focused on this match, now im happy, i want to go home, go to my church, pray, i want to say jesus, thank you, because for me and this is a great opportunity for my country. Ill cry over spilled milk, ive had a lot of wins and glory, ive had one loss in a close fight with a worthy man like usyk, and ive had a lot of fun in the ring, ive played with my hands behind my back, ive enjoyed it, you know alexander is a good fighter, i caught him and he caught me and it was a good fight so i hope you enjoyed it. Vasyl, i think we liked it, and it seems that tyson fury came to you. At the press conference, because immediately after the fight, he said that in fact he won the fight, well, thats exactly what he said at the press conference, but in the ring he also said that usyk was given the victory, because there is a war in ukraine, well, it looked very inappropriate and very ugly, all the more so saw, well, actually, if it were not for the strange decision of the judge, which is simply not legitimized by the rules of boxing, the fight would probably have ended in the ninth round, but there really was a threat to health, obviously to the health of fury, because we we understand that such blows, a series of blows, when you are not defending yourself, can lead to hemorrhage in the brain, to anything, but then stop the fight altogether, well, that is, if there is a threat of death or health, then the fight is stopped altogether, so i think, understanding this, both the judges and fury himself, well. He, but he said very honestly, a very worthy opponent, true, so usyk, the first absolute World Champion in super heavyweight in 25 years, this is the royal division, as it is called, of course, we remember that in the contract between boxers there is an option for a rematch, it is not yet known exactly when this fight can take place, and fury hinted so ambiguously that he still will think about whether he wants to end up in a wheelchair, because he will still receive many blows on the head and will accept, decide on the necessary correct ones. Decision with his family, and also about boxing, also this weekend ukraine received another World Champion in boxing, it is about Denys Berinchyk, who won the wbo lightweight World Champion title in the United States in san diego. The ukrainian defeated the mexican emanuel navarette. The fight took place in the United States and lasted all 12 rounds. The judges gave a split decision to the ukrainian. 115113, 112116 and 116112. Ukrainians now own two of the four major championship titles in the lightweight division. I will remind you that earlier in may, Vasyl Lomochen