Idea. We have more memos and we know the process for obtaining wiretaps is more secret than Colonel Sanders special sauce. Political hacks describing a fisa warrant application for their own gain is see unsatisfying. Thats like someone describe the juicy scene after naughty movie. It doesnt have the same effect. What is pornographic is the lack of oversight and they approve 99. 9 of them. And they also receive no oversight. It doesnt matter who scores 90s this useless back and forth between House Intelligence Committee members. We all lose when power can be so brazenly abused only to be award with more power and less pushback. Let, bring a little heat to this rubber stamp tap factory that is proving to be so problematic and laughably unsafe. Lets start it. Im kennedy. The New York Times is asking the foreigning tell jones Surveillance Court for documents from the wiretapping application of carter page and Republican Congressman Michael Mccaul is also calling for the application to be made public. Are lawmakers realizing the need tore transparency . Joining me now, thomas massie, welcome back to the show. I was almost shocked to realize that we have never had one of these fisa warrant applications released. Do you think that will finally snap i think so. Even the process for getting a fisa warrant. Until the food 50s these memos was secret to us, even members of congress. I think the great thing about the escalating fight between democrats and republicans, as a result we are getting more transparency. Kennedy those who lean towards the side of liberty from sitting back watching the pies fly and say this is what we have been talking about for years. This sort of overreach you and your colleagues are documenting on capitol hill, but both sides are doing their best to keep prying eyes away from the dirty truth. There is a scandal very few people are recognizing. The intel committee, people responsible for the oversight of the fisa process sat on this information until we reauthorized the 702 part of the fisa question. What did they know and when did they not. They knew the fisa process was rife for abuse but they sat on this so every member of congress could rubber stamp this. We think there is a case for reopening that fisa resolution. This is the tip of the iceberg. There is a part of the fisa process that requires you to get a tbrawrnt a secret court. But they would be appalled at what allows them to spy on you and me without getting a warrant . Kennedy president obama came out and vehemently defended the nsa and the nice fisa process. Apologists who came out and said we are not listening to your phone calls and not reading your emails, that was nonsense. We dont know how Many Americans were targeted under this program. Americans get scooped up in that, we dont know how many. There is no oversight on who is surveilled and how they are surveilled. And i dont know there is a way to change this. If this amash amendment, if that was quashed, how can we expect safeguards. If we had that vote today, we would prevail. I had colleagues get up to the microphone and say why didnt you tell us about this. I voted for fisa and you didnt tell me the story here kennedy if you go back and look at the record and look at what you have said on record. If justin amash and even adam schiff had a piece of legislation he put forward to have Senate Confirmation of these fisa court judges. There are the blatant abuse analyze and oversteps of power. Then warrants are actually obtained and even though they go through that somewhat legal process. Its still nefarious. We talk about the deep state it doesnt matter if we have a democrat or republican in the white house. They all want the same thing, bigger government, more spying and surveillance. The people are on our side. I love this food fight of memos flying back and forth. I say lets air all the laundry, then vote on fisa. Kennedy you had mike mccaul say the same thing. Put out the fisa application. See what evidence they used to obtain this wiretap. Instead of adam schiffs version and devin nunes version, i think both of those people are less to be believed, the claims they put forward for what they are writing in their respective memos. I agree. They were both in favor reauthorizing fisa and they both night was happening in the background. If they are heroes, thats what trump tweeted, im not sure. But lets take what they have got out in the open and use it for the better good. Kennedy its simple, it could be painful, but its necessary right now. Law make officers on the House Intelligence Committee may be arguing over memos. But they may be divided in their anger over steve bannon. Bannon says he doesnt have the trump administrations blessing to talk about his time in the white house. His lawyers are apparently pushing back against the execute kp. Lets go to michael star hopkins, and another michael, author of dear treerd, the unauthorized biography of kim jongil. And jamie weinstein. Steve bannon is not going to talk before this committee. What do you think he would say differently before the House Intelligence Committee than he would before robert mueller. I think they are pretty upset with him. One of the reasons people want to talk to him is because of the quotes he gave in Michael Wolffs book. Kennedy he was specific about the kushner empire and how they are edging their bets. The white house has taken out his career and maybe hes trying to find a soft spot in Donald Trumps heart to bring him back in. Kennedy hes such a sympathetic character. Regardless of whether you think this is politically motivatedder has nothing to hide. He is not someone who handles himself well as a punching back. I dont know how you can ignore a subpoena from congress. The constitution is clear. Congress is powerful with their seen a powers. This is not going to be across longterm strategy that will work for him. Kennedy this institution he loathes, im not talking to the swamp the u. S. Marshals will t him from his house if he doesnt show up. Kennedy tino you are a lawyer. But just because you dont testify doesnt mean you are guilty. Absolutely not. It becomes problematic when you start saying we are all about transparency and aiding this investigation and getting truth. But when it comes time to aid the investigation and get to the truth, you dont want to talk. Kennedy i think he should go and make a big statement, then take the fifth. Thats how you do it, and you dont get in trouble for it. You get all your ideas out there. Lois lerner was a swamp thing. Steve bannon is not a swamp thing. So he doesnt have the backing of the swamp. When he ran breitbart they slammed eric holder when he was held in contempt of congress. Now it looks like he may be doing the same thing. Kennedy its all former fbi chief james comeys fault. Thats what lanny davis,ing a longtime confidant of hiek Hillary Clintons blames. Last night at an Award Ceremony at georgetown, hi, queen. Hillary had a different excuse for her election collapse. So of any you who read my book about what happened know that i think misogyny and sexism was part of that campaign if it was one of the contributing factors. And some of it was oldfashioned 60sism and a re oldfashionx youism and the inability to accept womens credibility. I was on this campaign. Kennedy good choice. Lets go to vegas and ill bet against everything you bet on. She wasnt a very likeable candidate. But i think sexism did play a role. Kennedy if you have a big pie and you have got percentage slices. How big is the pie slice for unlike built . Probably 40 . Kennedy sexism . 20 . I think people forget sexism had a huge part in her favor because there are plenty of people on the left who voted for our first female candidate. If you have got 20 reasons why you lost including one letter. Clearly you are a loser. You have organizations who never endorsed anyone endorsed her. Kennedy people who didnt run and could have won who stepped out of the way. She made the fact that she was female a center piece of her campaign. She was telling people to vote for her to make her the first female president. It was an awkward balance. I think more people didnt vote for president obama because of race than didnt vote for Hillary Clinton because she is. Female. But president obama won the race. Kennedy this is a point you brought up. You know who doesnt complain about a huge factor. Mitt romney. He doesnt say he lost base was a mormon. Its not befitting of a leader. She should go out and find a cause thats important. Burma. The massacres going on there. The only cause Hillary Clinton is ever concerned about is Hillary Clinton and take care of her enemies. Hillary clinton has done a lot of good. She gave us the first Republican Congress in 1994. She would do well to pick an issue and focus on it instead of dwelling on the election. Kennedy forget the unlike built. That speaks to the incompetence. If you cant pick out one thing and go for it. Look at al gore. Hes the biggest polluter in the state of tennessee. And people know that. But he still makes movies. She should endorse a cough medicine. She has been hacking for 20 years. Kennedy ill ask if the fed is to blame for the market failure. Dennis miller talks silly celebrations later in the show. Stay here. 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Nobody really knows what caused the fall. But there is concern the fed will raise Interest Rates because of a booming economy. Is there anything to fix . So, a lot of people are jobs reports. Its the fed, isnt it . If anybody could say this whats going on. Kennedy its frustrating that there is not one cause we can point to. There never really is just one cause. The on thing im pretty confident in is it has nothing to do with the president. He want to claim credit when it goes up, and not down. Its some combination of maybe its people overreacting to the fed and trying to anticipate things. Maybe its a lack of confidence in the bubble going up. What we have been talking about for years now. The fed has been printing money gig out cheap cash to banks. They are taking that money and Getting Better runs in the stock market. Kennedy when you think the fed is printing money, they are literally buying financial products, they have 4. 5 trillion on their books and they have to stop getting rid of that. They stopped buying products out of the market in 2014. They are trying to unwind it in a way that doesnt screw with the stock market. But this is a problem of their own making. The whole idea that we can control an economy from a Central Source has been disproven time and time again. The fact that the fed got more than lucky in their responses made everybody think they have inflation and the stock market under control. If we twaict just right we can imagine to avoid volatility. Why is volatility a bad thing . Kennedy in a free market isnt volatility implicit . You want occasional volatility to get rid of bad things in the marketplace. Kennedy when the pressure starts you lift the involve and let the steam out. Kennedy thats a point that you made. Rising tide lift all boats. I think there is some misperception that people buy the stock market. These are individual companies being bought and sold off the underlying fundamentals of these companies. Its not like you have a bunch of people sitting back and lurching and running for the stock market. Kennedy it is more volatile so it scares people out. But i dont want grandma and grandpa losing their money. Grandma and grandpa shouldnt be invested in the stock market. They should be in bonds. Anthony, thanks for being here. Coming up, isis militants, raffle peters coming by to talk about how they have been defeating them in syria. Oh, thats lovely. So graceful. The corkscrew spin, flawless. His signature move, the flying dutchman. Poetry in motion. And there it is, the baby bird. Breathtaking. A sumo wrestler figure skating . Surprising. Whats not surprising . How much money heather saved by switching to geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Take off for mexico with expedia. 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Ahhhhhhhh you know whats easy . Building your website with godaddy. Get your domain today and get a free trial of gocentral. Build a better website in under an hour. Kennedy isis has been largely defeated in syria. New untell jones suggests they could be regrouping in afghanistan. Thousands of militants are said to have fled there with their families. Reports indicate some fighters with chemical weapons training have defected to al qaeda. Can we ever truly defeat isis or likeminded jihadists . Joining me, Lieutenant Colonel ralph peters. Go eagles. Kennedy i hate patriots, i woke in a good mood again today knowing tom brady lost. I want to have that same false comfort. Unfortunately it feels like they are regrouping. A bunch of guys who dont care what team their playing for, they just want to murder us. Its kind of like the stock market. Just a couple years ago remember how high isis was. They had a caliphate, they had a state that straddled western iraq and eastern syria. Today the caliphate is gone. Tens of thousands of isis fighters are dead. Take a bow one of the