News by endorsing a quote, targeted advertising tax for funding newsrooms. Sanders stating part quote, todays assault on journalism i wall street billionaire businessman Silicon Valley and donald trump present a crisis and why we must take concrete action and we should not want even more of the free press to be put under the control of a handful of corporations and benevolent billionaires who can use their media empires to punish their critics and shield themselves from scrutiny. Jonathan, what do you think of bernies solution . Free press that means free from government. But out bernie. This is infuriating the government has no role zero, zilch no role in journalism and in speech and in ideas but both bernie in the last and on the right as well have consistently been attacking the free press not just one institution or one pure radical or reporter for the institution at large and thats what paving the way for these calls are more government regulation or institution into what could be more sacred than a First Amendment our free press. But out, bernie. Can we get an amen out in here . I agree with you jonathan. The funny thing is i feel like we have not had a freer press than we do now in the fact that everyone has a voice whether publishing your own blog on the internet or going onto a big, bad corporate sites like facebook or twitter and to have your own voice and put it out there. Weve not had that before. Unless you are a journalist or knew somebody who would publish you cannot get your voice into the mix so i would argue that the problem is not that we dont have a free press but consumers happen to click on click beat all the time you dont have the best taste. David panel, stay in. I want to bring in the Media Research center, dan gaynor. You might not look his solutions but bernie has had on real problems with journalism, no . Journalists have a ton of problems and bernies solutions are not good. Lets have the socialist mess with the constitution in free press. Not always a good thing. These are not even new solutions and i i wrote an oped fbox nt how a free press is trying to graft from government from journalists 230 billion that back then because they know if government is funding journalism it will end up funding leftwing journalism just like it does in europe and just like it does here in america when it comes it. Pbs, journalists basically are part of the government operation already and can you imagine if they got more money . They would not be more conservatives but more liberal. Part of the government operation journalists are part of the government operation did i hear that correctly . Yeah, thats what [inaudible conversations] thats completely incorrect. I want to go back to another point before dan joined just, he said governments are not in being and everyone has a voice but havent you in the past, on the show, argue that maybe the likes of facebook and google are shunning the right wing voices and favoring liberals by us or having the liberal bias so isnt that going contradictory to what youre stealing right now that everyone has a voice and out they dont . There is a concern that the social media giants is that they do have a lot of control over what we see and contribute or get a lot of the algorithm and more people are turning to them so i do think its an issue and no, journalists are not part of the Government Institution or whatever you just said, dan. [inaudible conversations] if i could respond back to christina to address that he point. If you listen to i said on the program before i said i feel like these forms should protect the speech and thats what they should do but the government should not intervene and they should be the free market that puts pressure on companies and shareholders should put pressure on them and follow free speech out of principle not because theyre required to by law. I am not arguing for Government Intervention before or today. No, but in the past go ahead, john. Christina, i will agree with you because you say that reporters are not for the Government Institution but look to the Washington Post with by the way, Bernie Sanders called out as well. They have 47 pulitzers and they are the one that broke the any politician we have, right or left, will go after any press thats against him and us hurting our press and you had billionaires with the graham family washing the wanting to post and weve always had billionaires not always great like William Randall hearst and joseph pulitzer. We had bad things happen but were starting to see more freedom of press now and i dont think these policies will take. David don, you wouldnt be for a system where the government has a tax and pay for some kind of government controlled or government regulated journalism system that is paid for by taxpayers, would you . Oh my god, no, david. Absolutely not. Im with jonathan. I dont want the government in any of it but i think its unfair to be journalism completely as a liberal propaganda. I agree with you but honestly i asked this question today if it doesnt the president , on some level, bear some of this response ability because he takes every opportunity not to go after one particular newspaper reporter but a tax the press at large and the media is in that sewing this element of distrust that essentially paves the way for burning . I completely agree with that. One thing about donald trump. He did not start this fight. The media supported they love to trump for a long time and then they did everything they could so he fought back. He said something that i widely disagree with. He said the press is the enemy of the people. Theyre not the enemy of the left. They love the left. But i enemies to conservatives . Absolutely. He did not start it . What kind of argument is that i hear that for my eight yearold kid. [inaudible conversations] david john, are you suggesting that the media gives donald trump a fair shake . I think the media has an inherent liberal bias, yes, i agree with that but we dont have newspapers that are based in des moines or cedar rapids, iowa so yes, the media has a liberal bias and i dont think that leads into stories. David you dont . Have you ever seen do you remember they try to put out a headline that seems like it might be pro trump and they had to change it at the last minute before it hit the presses. David, isnt that the beauty . Carol alluded to this. There are more sources now and more journalism for more voices thats ever been had before and citizen journalism were podcasting. People that are spewing lies on the blog is not journalism. You have more people but to johns point theres been 1400 communities that have lost the newspapers and where the local news out there . [inaudible conversations] last time i checked the First Amendment included freedom of press belongs to all of us but yes, if someone blogs whether they are a high pay New York Times reporter or ordinary person on the street they are blogging that journalism but the problem is christina would decide what journalism is. David hold on. Hold on. As an old print guide let me go back to dan on this because i think christina makes a good point. In the old days i worked at the journal for many years and we had four levels of editors before anything would hit the newsprint. That is gone now and a lot of journalism its just right from your fingers into the internet and becomes cold, journalism. That, jonathan, if you have these levels of editors that are supposed to check the accuracy of your story that does provide never have a guarantee but more evidence than what you have printed is true. Right . And it hold them accountable. Well, this high level of accuracy are the same ones, david, that late jason blair. David big mistakes were made. Yeah, but what i thank you might quibble with the New York Times editorial but to criticize their actual reporting they send reporters out and do report the news and at the end of the day if you dont like it, turn it off. David you dont have to buy the newspapers and can turn the channel if you want. Dan gaynor, great to see you my friend. Johnson and johnson boeing to appeal a landmark opioid verdict in oklahoma. What impact will this decision have been other lawsuits in the drug industry and Product Liability in general we asked doug burns more on the fallout coming next. My body is truly powerful. I have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. Because i can still make my own insulin. And trulicity activates my body to release it like its supposed to. Trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. Its not insulin. I take it once a week. 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A judge ordered the company to pay 572 Million Dollars in damages in this ruling may have an even wider impact in joining us now former federal prosecutor doug burns though how is this decision going to set a precedent for other Product Liability cases . A court ruled on appear that the rule of law for becomes the president and a trial context each case is weighed on its own merits. However, the theory of this case is interesting and it wasnt strict the ie and inherently dangerous product but wasnt negligent and you were negligent in the way. David what was it . He engaged in false marketing and advertising on the pills which led to a public nuisance under oklahoma law. The point is the advertising was look, they put out literature saying its not that addictive and you should stress the patients that acute pain can become chronic pain and the judge laid it all out. I looked through the opinion said that was false marketing and false advertising and that created the public nuisance but to answer your original question is public nuisance under oklahoma law which is very specific as the case it was brought by the state and not by individuals. Carol, it seems like a slippery slope as i mentioned on this program that alcohol we had more than 8 million alcoholics in this country and certainly we have alcohol manufacturers and marketers that now consume and say its a new new system and you can got to have good time and not addictive so where does the stop because it seems to me like this is an attempt to remove personal responsibility for their down the chain and to find someone to blame for everything using the legal system. Very viable point and the point is as a canvas this case with people hitting the commonsense reactions a lot of saying arent the doctors responsible and if there over prescribing and not necessarily the manufacturer but again, a little broken record points on this specific facts of this specific case the point is it was advertising which led to suspicions to state there is liability but back to the point just made it is a slippery slope and i have to be cognizant of that. The segway, david, is on appeal lets not count them out and they may do well on appeal but hard to say. Doug, people say theres response ability of the level of the user but going after the Big Pharma Companies because they borrow a line from Willie Sutton that is where the money is and could be see the situation with the Tobacco Companies over a decade ago when they got the big lawsuit and it made the stocks on investable for years and could the same type of cloud way over these pharmaceutical stocks of state after state goes after them for big money . Its kind of the same answer. Jonathan, depends on how this case will bear on appeal to a great extent. Those will probably be filed by those cases are on appeal but at the same time we could see first of all, i assume you talking about this yesterday but they were looking for 17 billion and they came up with 500 and ironically in terms of financial stuff and not my area of excess pts is optimistic but the point is we will see how this case varies on appeal but i like the slippery slope to repeat that specter, great to have you on the show with jon here. Good to see you. The question is that somewhere in between there is a doctor who is a little better than a game quarter drug dealer running script after script and im not putting a blanket and all doctors out there but some are writing way too many scripts of pain pills, opioids so why are doctors getting out of this . Its interesting because we have this intervening cause which breaks the change of causation with simple english. How can you say the manufacturer of the bill cause what happened. There is intervening conduct so john is exactly right but where they got hooked and snacked is on this concept of you put out false information saying its not going to make it addictive and so on and thats why they got killed. Changing the fact pattern if they had done nothing in terms of Marketing Campaigns with Advertising Campaigns put aside financial part et cetera et cetera but the reality is and never wouldve been found liable in this case. What about the terminology . Public nuisance. Carol talked about why not go after Alcohol Companies or though companies that contribute to obesity but if you look at the rulings for the Tobacco Industry didnt they also use the term public nuisance and he did have retaliation against harmful substance. When you heard me say about strict liability and its interesting because legal theories are different than casual conversation so strict liability of the court tobacco situation is putting out a product that inherently dangerous and we dont care and this thing is automatically dangerous and that was pretty much the core but as far as alcohol i make in this analogy which would be makers of alcohol are careful to do warnings, dont drink and drive, it wont affect you if you driving would be thats the analogy. But painkillers have redeeming value. Those who need them, cancer patients, very bad back problems et cetera and what concerns me is that doctors and Drug Companies may now be reluctant to prescribe them and come up with new versions. Great point. Like Everything Else you need the legitimate administration of it for people who really need it and you will have abuse so here the abuse may chill the legitimate use. David doug burns, great to see her. 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I know the slippery slope and i dont think america is moving that far left but biden is not a good campaigner and has a great feeling he had a great feeling of president obama who felt he was a popular president during his term among democrats and had such a big lead court call harris, cory booker was before and, Bernie Sanders everybody is attacking him including from the right, President Trump we see him as a friend so thats whats taking