Transcripts For FBC The Journal Editorial Report 20240713 :

Transcripts For FBC The Journal Editorial Report 20240713

Present the case against the president , kim strassel, and columnist and manhattan senior fellow jason riley, what do you expect to happen in this trial . Well, what we are going to have is the an Opening Statement where people put forth outlines for and against and questions about votes, youll also have the house impeachment managers going first and presenting evidence that they collected if the course of this investigation trying to convince senators that it is enough to go forward with conviction and in theory that would be by the president s defense. Paul is there a possibility that youll hear from impeachment managers and if the Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell says you know what, i think we have enough votes to acquit here right now that they could hold a vote after that those original arguments . This is something more and more republicans are thinking about. You know there, had been a thought of having emotion to dismiss up front but it was clear that a lot of republicans werent willing to go there. Paul right. And simply not do senate duty, could they simply say, you guys in the house, we have given you the time you asked, youve given it your best shot, this is so weak, we will not listen to the president s defense, we will have a vote to acquit right now. Paul star lineup of potential lawyers defending, ken starr, alan dershowitz, robert ray, former prosecutor, pretty strong team. Yes, and the president seems to be two minds on this depending the day of the week. I think theres a case where republican response on the record responding to the charges. Paul they havent had an official opportunity legally. And the public might deserve to hear that. Paul systematic way on taking on theres argument just for the history books, right . Also what youre hinting at, this is what could be new in the impeachment, weve heard mostly what the democrats have, all the things repeated ad nauseam. We have defense of the president and also i presume they cast out on some of the witnesses that they already have and it would be interesting to hear. Paul theres a game of chicken after the two sides present and theyll be votes presumably on the witnesses, the democrats say you must call witness that is the house didnt call strangely enough, you must do it but then the republicans are saying, okay, you want to call john bolton, you want to call mick mulvaney, the White House Acting chief of staff, we will call hunter biden and joe biden. Thats exactly whats going to happen. A lot of people that the republicans would like to call and i think as much as there may be pressure on some republican senators to allow john bolton and the democrats to call their witnesses im not sure the democrats will really push this if youre going to have this parade of other people, i mean, you could just have hunter biden up there asked to go into his expenses and so forth, i also think the more barisma is follow is in the news the more it hurts hunter biden. I think they will drop this and probably wisely, so i think nancy pelosi strategy and the democratic strategy is try to delegitimize what the senate is up to and say this is a coverup, seems to be the new buzz word that nancy pelosi is using, process was treated as a joke by the senate who is trying to cover up for the president , so i see them pushing that line rather than pushing arguments for witnesses going forward. Paul kim, what about this new supposed evidence thats been introduced, the lawyer who is under indictment as i understand it and claiming that somehow the president knew about Rudy Giulianis actions in ukraine, how significant is that . Yeah, id call it much a do about not very much. First of all, you have to remember that as indicted individual, theres a credibility issue here and whether or not hes saying this just to get public support or help from democrats or the validity of it, but also theres a question of of honesty in it too in that hes claiming that he knows that the president knew that the Vice President knew, that the attorney general knew, he provided no information to establish how he would know that, look, weve had lots of witnesses and one one of the iss is that no one has been able to say exactly whats on the president s mind or what was being debated in the white house, this has been one of the failures of house impeachment because they didnt manage to get any fact witnesses, hes not a fact witness. Paul why didnt the house call him and let him testify . Well, excellent question and i think that gets to the speediness of their political timelines. It looks as though by the hurried nature of them throwing this out and in half hazard way that they hadnt gotten to a point where they could do that and they didnt want to wait long enough to get there. Paul thank you, President Trumps impeachment trial shaping up 2020 race as democratic hopefuls get pulled off the campaign trail at a critical time. Weve got to deal with impeachment trial but we cannot forget the very Serious Problems facing the american at Fisher Investments, we do things differently and other Money Managers dont understand why. Because our way works great for us but not for your clients. Thats why were a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. So, what do you provide . Cookie cutter portfolios . Nope. We tailor portfolios to our clients needs. But you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right . We dont have those. So, whats in it for you . Our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. At Fisher Investments were clearly different. At comcast, we didnt build the nations largest gigspeed network just to make businesses run faster. We built it to help them go beyond. Because beyond risk. Welcome to the neighborhood, guys. There is reward. Beyond work and life. Who else could he be . There is the moment. Beyond technology. There is human ingenuity. Every day, comcast business is helping businesses go beyond the expected, to do the extraordinary. Take your business beyond. Paul President Trumps impeachment trial threatening to up end the democratic race as 4 president ial hopefuls taken off the campaign trail ahead of the First Nations caucuses, vermont senator Bernie Sanders acknowledged the challenge the trial will pose as he returns to capitol hill on thursday. I would rather be in iowa today, theres a caucus there in 2 and a half weeks, id rather be in New Hampshire and so forth, but i swore a constitutional oath at the United States senate to do my job and im here to do my job and i think the people of the United States understand that. Paul well, before we get to the impact on the democrats, i just want to finish up on impeachment, the General Accountability Office issued report this week widely advertised that said that the administration had broken the law by deferring to ukraine, military aid to ukraine, what do you of their logic . This is an opinion of bureaucracy, the timing is suspicious. Comes right out as this is kind of the pattern weve seen, never go with what when it was bob mueller investigating we were supposed to look for that, then didnt produce it, look for Something Else in the headlines, gao has an opinion, some people disagree with that opinion, in 2014 they ruled that bob b,. No statute was violated, looks like this might be over procedures, protocols that werent followed, but the white house has the authority to hold up aid and, again, this is another example of no statute being violated and therefore no crime, let alone a high crime warranting impeachment over. Paul all right, kim, regarding democratic senators, warren, sanders, klobuchar, close in iowa, are they going to be hurt at all by not being able to campaign, big help for biden and mayor pete . Yeah, they are seeding the field to joe biden and Pete Buttigieg and they are not happy about it especially because its not just pulling them away, given the rules and the way that its set up, there isnt going to necessarily be a big opportunity for them to grand stand or use this opportunity to show iowan voters that, you know, their chops in the senate, they will have to sit there, no phones, they cant talk with their staff and listen to lawyers on in the floor, this is what we will get in the week, its not active campaigning by any stretch. Paul theyll certainly give biden and mayor pete a chance to have the field for themselves but that doesnt stop the campaigns from advertising in those states on the air and, you know, they can come out and use the the microphone be in their face, what do you think of this evidence and what do you think of that evidence, theyll get air time. Especially in iowa where its a caucus system, a lot depends on pressing, the person least happy is Amy Klobuchar because iowa is make or break for her, if you look at real clear politics, biden is ahead of bernie by a hair and bernie ahead a little bit in New Hampshire, theyre all 3 to 4, 5 points, a lot of undecided people, those two primaries can have a big effect. If biden swept all the primaries paul its over. He basically has the nomination. Paul let me ask you about electoral potential impact, jason, on the Race Campaign for the senate, im increasingly believing that the democratic strategy here is really keeping impeachment going as long as possible and tarnishing trump and putting pressure on martha mcsally, gardner, Susan Collins and jody ernst. Mitt romney or Lisa Murkowski who have been known to show independent streaks in the past. I believe thats what pelosi is up to here and its because they dont really have the goods and they know theyre not going to to be able to follow through with the bomb shells they promised, in terms of, you know, russian collusion and and that sort of thing and so this is what theyre left with. Paul whats the calculation of somebody like romney, he has principles about white house, he clearly doesnt like trump and hes getting a lot of lobbying pressure from supporters who are the most ferocious never trumpers but i saw a poll this week that showed Approval Rating in utah had fallen 9 points, i think, in a Morning Consult poll because of lost of republicans. I think with romney frankly it might be personal with donald trump, but its also his honor he sees himself as independent person and so i think that thats whats driving him. Murkowski also, i think, is someone who i think has a dispute not only with trump, with the republican establishment in general over the way shes been treated in the past and i think, you know, she figures she has nothing to lose and not up for election and alaska a corky state to begin with. Paul kim, the calculation of those on impeachment, what do you make of it . Here is the important thing, here is what republicans understand, democrats have failed to convince the majority of republicans out there, voters of the case for impeachment and these guys are their base back home, so the question of conviction is almost off the table, they would themselves be done, they would not get reelection and i think youll see that play into some of the discussion that they have days going forward. Paul thank you all, when we come back Elizabeth Warren plays the gender card against Bernie Sanders, the two square off during and after tuesday nights debate in iowa, would it help her w man, im thinking tacos. Hey hey you guys look like foodies. Would you like to try our trashy back ribs . Oh, that sounds great. Everything is locally harvested, farm to dumpster to table. Uhhh, what do you. What else do you got . stammering wwe have a melon rind stew. Comes with a pork and bean reduction. Yeah, were going to just do a lap and well come back. Okay. Well, well be here. Man why isnt this working . My mouth is watering. I think thats just your rabies flaring up. With geico, the savings keep on going. Just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on Car Insurance. We got gristle pot pies when you look at the world, what do you see . Where others see chaos, we see patterns. Connections. Relationships. 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Paul showdown in iowa this week as senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders faced off in the final debate before the caucuses there, the vermont senator denying on tuesday night that he told warren in a private meeting in 2018 that he did not believe a woman could win the white house and warren later accused sanders of calling her a liar on national tv as supporters of both candidates took to social media to continue the fight, all of this raising fears on the left that the split could hinder efforts to nominate a progressive candidate to take on President Trump in november. So i am not here to fight with bernie, but lets fight with bernie. [laughter] paul why did she and the end the nonaggression pack . Well, she ended it because shes falling in the polls, paul, and her other strategies are not working and thus far its really been Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders splitting the progressive voter, most of the progressive vote, which explains bidens consistent lead, frankly, we knew gloves were going to come off, i thought the moderation, the moderators were quite unfair in how they handled after he denied it, they turn to her and say, when he did this, what was your was reaction and i wonder why Elizabeth Warren has been given the benefit of the doubt, this is a woman who has been constantly dishonest about big deals, being native american to advance her her academic career, where she sent her children to school, about being fired when she was expecting a child, why is she suddenly going on the treated truthful on this issue . Paul this goes back to Bernie Sanders and some of the Hillary Clinton supporters who were still soar at home for staying in the race for as long as he did in 2016. This was orchestrated and you got to why it was particularly nasty as well, because its meant to revive in peoples minds all of the complaints that the clinton people had about the bernie bros who were mean to her and picked on her because of her gender and Elizabeth Warren was trying to get two things out of this, she gets to damage Bernie Sanders reputation and gets to pivot and say you and the democratic party, its time to break another barrier, just like when you elected a catholic in the 60s, just like when we elected an African American in 2008, today step up and elect a woman. Paul how do you think its going to play . They are faced with a conundrum so long Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are in the race they are splitting the progressive vote, for one to triumph the other has to leave the race, i understand why Elizabeth Warren did it, i think it actually served her purposes. Paul you think itll help her . If you watch the debate on cnn and they all said she had great line, they were all saying she won the debate in this way and that unfair as it is, at a certain point it doesnt matter whether bernie said this or not, he has to have an answer for her. Paul he denied it. Right, this is what happens in president ial races, not always fair and people are looking for someone that can handle it. I think its a very shortsided strategy on her part, paul, because i dont think she can catch joe biden without Bernie Sanders supporters come over to her and this is a weird way to reaching out to them by accusing their guy of behaving this way and having they are all putting snake emojis on twitter feed. Literally. Paul absolutely. Maybe the biggest winners here are Pete Buttigieg and biden and klobuchar perhaps, what do you think, kim . Yeah, well i think thats why in fact, we had the mutual nonaggression pack between bernie and elizabeth because they understood that this was where it was going to go, you were going to end up corroding potential support if you went after one another, in the end Elizabeth Warren is hail mary, she decided that the calculation was such and i dont think it helps her in the end. Paul what else did you learn, anything from the from the debate . I will tell you one thing i learned, bill, was i think that the democrats need a reality check on the economy, they make it sound like this is 2008 or 1932, you have to recognize that there are some good things happening in the economy and then move to health care or something. I agree on that. To me the more striking one was iran. 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