But over the years, many years, weve been paying them from 300 to 500 and even more, Million Dollars a year, china has been paying them less than 40, over the years. So were paying them more than ten times more than china and they are very very china centric as i said, china centric. China always seems to get the better of the argument, and i dont like that. I really dont like that. I dont think thats appropriate. I dont think its fair to the American People. And you know, id tell that to president xi. Id tell that to the doctor. I spoke to him one time. I think hes a very nice man. I liked him, but we will be talking about that next week in great detail, were looking at it very very closely. We want to make sure moneys properly spent. But again, why is the United States paying 500 Million Dollars a year, thats a lot. Okay, thats a lot. Why is china paying last year, this year 42 Million Dollars . But generally under 40 so it niece the 30s so its in the 30s. Were at 500, 452, 400, 401, different amounts, different years and they are at 40, 38, 36, 35, 32, 31. But you have to ask yourself that question, and then the answer always turns out to be in the chinas favor. Isnt that interesting . We have world health and world trade. We have the World Trade Organization and until i came along we were losing cases, so many cases, it was ridiculous. We were always using these cases, i mean almost every case and now were winning cases. We just won 7 billion dollars because they know im not going to put up with it. China has been unbelievably taken advantage of us and other countries. You know, for instance, theyre considered a developing nation. I said well then make us a developing nation too. They get big advantages because they are a developing nation. India, a developing nation. The United States is the big developed nation. Well, we have plenty of development to do. Okay . And now were winning cases because they know that if were not treated fairly, im going to pull out. Youve never heard this before because nobody ever talked about the World Trade Organization, but the World Trade Organization has treated us very unfairly, but they know im not going to put up with it because all of these countries are taking advantage of the United States. Now, in the courts, and the court system, were not approving new judges over the last year were not going to approve. Bob lighthizer is working very hard on that. But we had always a minority position, meaning numbers of judges. So wed have a minority number of judges. I said how do you win a minority number of judges . But all of a sudden were winning. The reason were winning is they know if they dont treat us properly, and we won 7 billion dollars just this very recently, and the money is pouring in. Weve won other cases too. Weve won a lot of cases. But you know, from covering it, i know you know, that the United States was taken advantage of by the World Trade Organization, and by the way, speaking of china, if you look at the history of china, it was only since they went into the World Trade Organization that they became a rocket ship with their economy. They were flat lined for years and years, frankly for many many decades. It was only when they came in to the World Trade Organization that they became a rocket ship because they took advantage of all those im not even blaming them. Im saying how stupid were the people that stood here and allowed it to happen. But we dont allow that to happen. And if they dont treat us fairly, we will leave. But now were starting to win cases. How about somebody new for a change . Go ahead. As many schools and School Districts are closing across the country, Florida Governor ron desantis has not ruled out opening up schools in may, saying that many kids are not vulnerable to this disease. Do you agree with that assessment, and do you believe would you recommend that schools open up to those states i have a lot of confidence in ron desantis, a lot of faith in ron desantis to make the right decision. Hes doing a great job as governor. Ron desantis, i had read where hes thinking about opening up the schools earlier than that date, the end of the month. Id have to look at the numbers. But again, you know, i like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them because from a constitutional stand point, thats the way it should be done. If i disagreed, i would overrule a governor. And i have that right to do it. But id rather have them you can call it federalist, you can call it the constitution, but i call it the constitution, i would rather have them make their decisions. Hes made a lot of good decisions. He hasnt said hes going to. Hes thinking about it. I will take a look at it. If you allow children back in the schools, wouldnt that pose a threat to spreading the virus even further to some of those vulnerable i think the answer is obvious. Would you want to talk about that, maybe . Tony . Yeah, i mean, if you have a situation in which you dont have a real good control over an outbreak, and you allow children to gather together, they likely will get infected, and if they get infected, the likelihood that they will bring the infection home, so thats really a risk. I dont know the situation at all in any detail, and im not specifically speaking about florida. Im just speaking generically about what happens when you have infections in the community and you have congregation of people, such as in classrooms, that thats a risk. Has anyone under 25 die dr. Fauci in the country . The governor has said no within under 25 has died. I guess you can clarify people under 25 can die as a result of this. Maybe in florida in the country . I dont want to have to answer for a particular state. Yes, people under 25 have died of coronavirus disease in the United States of america. If you reopen the country in may, and theres a new outbreak or a spike in infections, are you open to the idea of shutting the country down again . Depending on the outbreak, yeah. Thats happened as you know in a couple of countries. Im watching other countries in many cases, theyre ahead of us from the standpoint that it attacked them before us, it hit them first. And im watching whats happening with respect to certain other countries, some of them obvious. Some of them less obvious and what they are doing and the success that they are having. And thats going to play a large part of the role. Were also setting up a council, a very very great doctors and business people, were going to be announcing it on tuesday, of some great people. Second task force . This is beyond economic. This is really i call it the opening our Country Task Force or opening our Country Council so we dont get it confused with mikes task force which has done so great. Were going to have the great business leaders, great doctors. Were going to have a great group of people. Well probably do it by teleconference because we dont really want them travelling in for their own purposes. I dont think it would look good also, but we dont want them traveling in. So we will do teleconference. We did one the other day with the banks, and it was very successful, the teleconference itself. We will be announcing names on tuesday, who is on that. That will play a role. But ultimately i will have to make that decision. Then i will have to make a decision do we close a little area thats a hot spot . I do say this, jim, i want to get it open as soon as possible. This country was meant to be open, vibrant, not where people are staying [inaudible]. I would love to open it. I have not determined anything. The facts will determine what i do. But we do want to get the country open, so important. I will have a task force. I will have a council. It is going to be announced on tuesday with names that i have a lot of respect for, a lot of great names, different businesses, different people. Bipartisan . Bipartisan . I didnt even ask. Honestly i think it is bipartisan. The one thing i didnt ask are you republican or democrat . Hard to believe but i didnt ask. I want their views on what they think. Also very important different parts of the country. You go to the midwest, it is different than perhaps the east coast or the west coast. Now, the west coast, those numbers are really Pretty Amazing on the west coast, very interesting. Were going to be announcing that in a very short while, probably tuesday. Government officials in latin america and caribbean nations, cayman islands, bahamas have been saying that u. S. Authorities are blocking the shipment of ppe in certain cases. Im wondering if you could speak to that. We have a tremendous force out there, naval force, and were blocking the shipment of drugs. So maybe what they are doing is stopping ships that they want to look we dont want drugs in our country, and especially with the over 160 miles of wall. It is getting very hard to get through the border. They used to drive right through the border like they owned it and in a certain way they did. They could drive they had Human Trafficking. All of a sudden they have a powerful wall up and they are not driving through that wall. That wall is stuff, and it is also loaded up with equipment, ka cameras, sensors, everything you can think of. On top of that, we have drones flying back and forth over it. It is a very powerful barrier between mexico and the United States. A lot of people, though, what theyre doing now is they are trying to come into the waterways, whether its the gulf or the ocean itself. What were doing is were being very tough. Were being tough because of drugs and also Human Trafficking. The Human Trafficking is mostly females. It is mostly females. It is horrible. What were seeing is horrible. We have a Human Trafficking problem worldwide, the likes of which, you know, you think of it as an ancient thing. It is not ancient. It is bigger now than its ever been before. Over the last ten years because of the internet. The internet made Human Trafficking to the extent that it is now, which is massive, the internet made it so big, so we are we have a big naval force thats stopping, so maybe when you mentioned that, pain their ships are getting caught maybe their ships are getting caught. We are stopping a lot of ships and finding a lot of drugs. Yeah, please . Thank you sir. On small business, treasury secretary mnuchin speaking with the democrats in congress the new yeah, the new 250 billion dollars. Are you willing to give into the democratic demands for, you know, additional money for hospitals, states and cities in that interim round i would rather have that be in phase four. I think it is fine. I think it should be in phase four, and i think we should have infrastructure and a payroll tax moratorium because thats something that over a period of time the workers get, you know, sort of semiimmediately, over that period of time. It starts immediately, but it is over a period of time. And there are a lot of people im one of them that would have liked to have seen the payroll tax cut as a permanent cut, but we should do the doubleedged, meaning business, employee, payroll tax cut, so were talking about that. And im certainly okay with helping the states and helping the hospitals. I think look the hospitals need help. You have seen what they have gone through. The states need help. Some states in particular need help, need big help. Im willing to look at that very strongly, but looking at it in phase four. The 251 is actually the plan is working out well. The banks are Getting Started with the distribution. They are taking thousands and thousands of applications. The numbers arent even believable, the number of applications. They are swamped with bank of america and wells fargo and i guess citi bank is just now kicking in. And also, what nobodys talking about, the commercial banks, the Community Banks, everyones talking commercial banks. The Community Banks are doing tremendous volumes and are probably doing them faster from what i understand. I heard Community Banks frankly are the easiest ones in terms of getting the money out. The money is getting out. The applications are far beyond what we ever anticipated. Thats why were going this is money that goes essentially to the workers. We want the businesses to hold on to their workers. Once they lose the workers, they are never opening again. It is not going to happen. In the back . Im from the wall street journal. Im wondering if you could expand a little bit on the form that mexico would take, the reimbursement, what form would that take . Add it to the tab of the wall, you mentioned . I have a second question, if i may. Theres no real cost because were agreeing to produce a little bit less. It is staying in the ground. You have it for another day. It is actually cheaper than storing it where you take it out and deliver it to massive well, like the strategic reserves, our National Strategic reserves where it has to be brought there, and thats, you know, an expensive process in itself. But oil is getting to a point where i mean there are some areas, some people would say the water is more valuable than the oil. You never thought you were going to see that. You never thought having covered i know you cover it, you never thought you would see oil at 20 a barrel, but how about 10 a barrel. That you never thought you would see. We are looking at it very strongly. Theres no real cost. I was helping i want to help mexico. We have a great relationship with mexico, great relationship with the president. I really like him a lot. Hes been terrific to us on the border because he stopped you dont see the caravans coming up anymore. You dont see all the problems when i took office, it was unbelievable what was going on, and they are really they have been helping us a lot. And weve been helping them a lot, you know. They make product for us. They sell it to us. Its fine, a Good Relationship. Sometimes it is a great relationship. So he could not have done any more than that. I think there was political reasons for that for him. That other nations dont have, they dont have that. The nations that were talking about, the 22 other nations that were talking about, they just dont have that problem. So it doesnt cost us anything, and yet its very valuable. We will be reimbursed in the future, maybe in the near future, maybe in the more distant future, but well be reimbursed by mexico in a certain way, and it will be fine. But we get mexico over the hump. Now with all of that being said, that doesnt mean the deal is going to happen anyway because they have a lot of different states. This was one of the stumbling blocks. Okay . Go ahead. China and some other countries have been particularly active, seen as maybe taking advantage of the u. S. During this process, d urg this period, South China Sea [inaudible], whats your message to some of these adversaries . Look, the way i view it is this, china has taken advantage of the United States for 30 years. Okay . I mentioned the World Trade Organization. China has taken advantage of us through that and using rules that are unfair to the United States, and they should have never been allowed this should have never been allowed to happen. When china joined and was allowed to join under those circumstances, the World Trade Organization, that was a very bad day for the United States because they had rules and regulations that were far different and far easier than our rules and regulations. Plus, they took advantage of them down to the last and you know china, and you study china, and you know what i mean. They took advantage of them like very few people would even think to take advantage of them. Again, they are considered, right, a developing nation. We are not considered a developing nation. They are given advantages. Okay. For many years, china has ripped off the United States. Then i came along. Right now as you know, china is paying 25 . We have taken in billions and billions of dollars in tariffs from china. I know a lot of people kept saying oh no were paying. Were not paying. Countries are different. Not every country is china. China would devalue their currency and also pour out money and they essentially were paying most of those tariffs, not us. We have taken in tens of billions of dollars. They targeted our farmers, but we took in so much money that i was able to give back one year it was 12 billion. One year it was 16 billion. I was able to give back our farmers the money that they were china bought 12 billion and 16 billion, one year 12, one year 16. I was able to give them back the 12 and then give them back the 16, the farmers. They werent targeted. They are all in business. Now were doing it because they got targeted in a different way. Now i am going to be very interested to see. We signed a deal with china. Under that deal they are supposed to buy substantially in excess of 200 billion dollars from us, thats not only farm product, it is manufacturing product, it is a lot of different things. They are going to buy a lot. I just want to see if they live up to that deal. I know president xi. I would say he would live up to the deal. Remember this, i never took off the tariff. Its still 25 . Thats a big 25 of 250 billion dollars. So for the first time, and you saw also now again, im going before the virus hit, because thats sort of like thats like lets start all over again. Okay . I cant tell you that yet because that chapter hasnt been written yet. But go up a few weeks ago, the deficit with the United States and china was coming way down.