Transcripts For FBC Lou Dobbs Tonight 20240713 : vimarsana.c

Transcripts For FBC Lou Dobbs Tonight 20240713

No abuse of power, there was no such thing as collusion between the Trump Administration and russia. There is also new information tonight about susan rices email declassification and why she mailed herself on Inauguration Day of 2017 about a january a 5th oval office meeting, a meeting at which president obama and senior obama err a rah officials talked about the radical dems effort to target the into coming Trump Administration. Today superrices representatives susan rices representatives told fox news that rice was directed by the white house come, neil eggleston, to, quote, memorialize that meeting before thed a managers left the administration left office. Rices attorneys made the very same claim back in 2018 in a letter to Senate Judiciary committee leaders. In that letter, however, rices attorney wrote, quote president obama and his National Security team were justifiably concerned about potential risks to the nations security from sharing highly classified information about russia with certain members of the trump transition team, particularly Lieutenant General michael flynn. On its face, that is an outright lie. And why was that assertioning of her attorneys . In these newly declassified parts of rices Inauguration Day email, it is clear there was no indication whatsoever of any threat posed by general flynn or any other member of the administration. Rice wrote this, quote president obama president prt obama asked the fbi director whether he was saying that the nsc, the National Security council, should not pass Sensitive Information related to russia and flynn. Comeys reply was potentially that he had no indication so far that flynn had passed classified information to kislyak, the Russian Ambassador. None whatsoever. The white House Counsel suggestion to memorialize the meeting obviously given to cover the Obama Administration and its pretext for what would become unmasking of Trump Administration officials. Why else would the National Security adviser, susan rice, mention a number of times herself that obama and comey said the administration was acting, quote by the book. Why else would rice writing that comey had concerns with flynns contacts with the Russian Ambassador but had absolutely no evidence, no indication that classified information had been shared . And why else would rice give president obama an excuse to question whether there was information to be shared with the incoming Trump Administration . Remember, that question originated with the president of the United States, not any member of the intelligence team, nor the director of the fbi. Rather, president barack obama. The Commerce Department, by the way, is now extending waivers for mostly Rural Telecom companies in the United States to use sanctioned huawei technology. For another 90 days. And the Commerce Department warns this is the last, the final extension. About a dozen states still have huaweiequippedded internet carriers including four with air force bases and Intercontinental Ballistic Missile fields. The fcc is still working with these companies to find the huawei gear, rip it and replace it. Well, its a confused matter, National Security and huawei and the United States position. Joining us now is commerce secretary wilbur ross to clear a lot of this up. And first, mr. Secretary, good to see you and welcome to the broadcast. Lets start with huawei. A National Security threat. At this particular moment, we have in our Research Found that there are more countries supporting pa way in their huawei in their 5g networks than there are who have followed u. S. Requests to abandon huawei. Does that comport to your reality, to the situation as you see it . No, its very disappointing. What theyve tried to do is to slice and dice. Their theory is if they limit the extent of the use of huawei, theyll protect themselves. We dont believe thats technologically feasible in terms of 5g. It was feasible in terms of 4g and 3g because those were fundamentally equipmentbased. 5g is much more softwarebased. We dont think it works. We think theyre kidding themselves. Lou you dont think its working to in any way compartmentalize or try to constrain huawei, theyre involved then. You think they still represent an espionage threat, and thats the reason so many of our allies are still with huawei . Do i understand correctly . Yes, we do. For several reasons. First of all, the assumption that some consultant whos never built the system would know it as well as the fella who built the system, we think, is a flawed theory. So the probability that someone could put into it a back door or a calling home mechanism without it being detected, we think, is considerable. But even without that, this kind of apparatus needs constant upgrades, constant modifications almost every month therell be some new thing from huawei being added to the equipment and to the software. So even if it were okay in the beginning, thats not to say itll remain okay for very long. And the real problem with that is youll never really know that it was there until its too late when they intend to unleash it. Lou and huawei right now, in addition to continuing to build out internationally despite the protests of you, secretary of state come pay owe pompeo, our allies are continuing to buy huawei, integrate them into their networks by a higher ratio than are listening to the United States and its concerns about espionage. In the 5g race itself, we were told a year and a half ago that the United States was going to be the victor, that we would be in a significant lead by this point. Our research, again, shows that huawei has a commanding lead on u. S. , on the United States in the 5g race. Whats going on . Well, the unfortunate truth is we do not have at this stage a national champion. We do not have a u. S. Version of huawei. Huaweis real competition around the world comes from samsung, comes from erickson and comes from nokia. We dont have an american champion. And the reason we dont is that they have destroyed the price structure at huawei so severely that its not economical for an american producer to make the equipment. So were trying to figure designs around it to get to some mechanism where were not so dependent on the radio relays which have been a marley particularly pricedepressed part of the system. Lou and the administration itself, on with opportunity hand sanctions one hand sanctions against huawei, and on the other hand, your department granting waivers for the purchase of huawei. There is, i think you would acknowledge, something of a mixed message here on the part of the administration that is concerning to our allies as well. Theyre saying that if you dont want us to buy this equipment, why are you giving waivers to u. S. Telecoms to do so yourselves . Yeah. Thats not exactly what were doing. The u. S. Installations are on 3g and 4g. They do do not pose the same security risks as 5g. There is no huawei 5g in the u. S. Now, nor does anybody in our government intend to permit there to be 5g. So its not the case that these waivers have anything to do with that. What they have to do with is its very important for the Rural Communities to have good access to broadband. Lou right. The only access they have right now is 4g and 3g huawei. We cant knock them out of broadband until fcc works with them and replaces the equipment. Lou well, we i think you would accept at least this humble proposition that im going to forward here, and that is that our allies are confounded that we would be talking about huawei, sanctioning huawei for its espionage efforts against the United States whichever generation were at, whether its 4g or 5g. The rusks are significant the risks are significant, and we have asked them to step back, our allies. Meanwhile, what i way is beating us at 5 huawei is beating us at 5g. That has National Security implications itself, and dont you believe oh, it surely does. Lou is so its a deeply troubling matter to me, speaking only for myself. Let me turn though to well, lou, if i could just lou and that is yeah, you could and you will. Go ahead. Okay. If our allies cant tell the difference between the technology of 5g and the technology of 4g, theyre not qualified to make the judgment that they can save themselves. They know very well that its a very different thing, 5g from 4g. We dont object to their using the old to stuff. Lou right. Well, at this point why then are we losing the race to china on 5g . Were losing the race because we do not have a national champion. Its very tough to go to a foreign government, as i have many, many times, explain our view on huawei, and their response often is, well, who is the American Company we can use . The fact is we dont is have one. And thats the real gap, thats the real problem. Lou well, sweden, finland, japan are all strong american allies, and just as you have Just Announced that youre bringing in tmsc from taiwan, a 12 billion facility in arizona. And i want to cop congratulate hate the administration. This is precisely what the president has said he wants done. Youve been working, i know, on this issue and this company for several years. I want to congratulate you here, because this is terrific. Well, thank you. Lou ericsson, nokia, you name it, these companies should be welcome here as well working in 5g. Perhaps we could make one of them a champion. Certainly for the United States. Something of a proxy, i admit, but my gosh, its a very amazing accomplishment on your part and the administrations to bring in this very important Taiwanese Semiconductor company. It really is a gamechanger because there are only two companies in the world that have the potential ability right now to produce the very small, very powerful semiconductors that tsmc lou right. Will be making here. The other one is samsung, a korean company. And we would love to have them come here as well. Lou well, we will, im sure that they have just received your invitation, and we hope they will respond forthwith. Mr. Secretary, its always great to talk with you. Again, congratulations and thanks for being with us. Wilbur ross. Secretary of the department of commerce. Thank you, lou. Lou up next, red storm rising, china using the wuhan virus pandemic to ramp up aggression and pressure around the world. Well take that up with National Security expert kt kt mcfarland, asia export gordon chang in this broadcast tonight and more on the obama administerings efforts to administrations efforts to undermine the Trump Administration as it was taking power in january 2017. We take that up next with flynn attorney Sidney Powell. Stay with us. I got this Mountain Bike for only 11. Dealdash. Com, the fair and honest bidding site. An ipad worth 505, was sold for less than 24; a playstation 4 for less than 16; and a schultz 4k television for less than 2. I won these bluetooth headphones for 20. I got these three suitcases for less than 40. And shipping is always free. Go to dealdash. Com right now and see how much you can save. 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Also today johnsons Homeland Security committee voted to subpoena a firm with ties to Burisma Holdings as part of its investigation into the bidens and the ukrainian corruption. Our next guest this evening is general Michael Flynns attorney, joining us, one of the foremost Defense Attorneys in the country, Sidney Powell, former prosecutor, best selling author. Thanks for being here, and lets start with johnson making the assertion that Christopher Wray is covering up here. Your reaction. Well, hes been in office quite a long time now, lou, and he certainly did not produce to the defense the exculpatory evidence regarding general flynn thats been in the fbi files for at least three years. Or take it to the attorney general or anything else that we know of. Apparently, it had to be prided out of the fbi with extreme leverage. So i cant applaud the efforts of Christopher Wray from anything i know or is have seen. On top of that, he was Andrew Weissmans supervisor whens weissman was at the department of justice on the Enron Task Force and destroyed arthur anderson, sent four Merrill Lynch executives to jail while they hid the evidence that showed they were innocent for six years. Its the same old pattern, and mr. Wray is part of it. Lou it is an extraordinary gathering of questionable characters over the course of time, particularly those and, by the way, that includes some republicans including Michael Chertoff who altogether chose to destroy a great, a great firm and the jobs of 85,000 people as they took on and charged a professional Services Firm arthur anderson, which was a death blow, of course. It would be to any professional Services Firm. Lets turn to, if we may, the flynn case and the role here of the fbi which persists as a cloud that is ever darkening. We still dont have the 302s, the interview records of general flynn and the fbi agents who conducted those. Its inning conceivable inconceivable that the fbi would lose the interview record of the, an interview with National Security adviser to an incoming president. Its just, its unthinkable but yet here we are these three years later, and it still persists as a great enigma within the fwbi. Fbi. It could only have been destroyed because the system dingizes everything or it leaves a trail if its affirmatively destroyed. That evidence has has to be then the sentinel system one way or another. Theres also another draft after that that we havent seen. Theres at least two drafts missing that would show the most crucial changes from the origin aal 302 to what eventually became the final 302 that mr. Mccabe himself signed off on after it was dramatically altered. Lou and altered by peter strzok. Yes, exactly. And lisa page. Mccabes special counsel. Lou its difficult to understand why Christopher Wray and attorney general barr would not have turned everything upside down in order to produce those documents for the integrity of both the prosecution which apparently they believed in up until they could no longer pretend they did. And now when they see what an injustice was done to your client which you have demonstrated and advocated throughout that they still permit those to be, quoteunquote, missing 302s when they are exculpatory and when and theyre part of history. To me, i just cannot find an excuse for either the administration that is so obviously corrupt politically, the Obama Administration, and the Current Administration which has the capacity to produce those documents. I certainly dont understand it either, but what i find particularly outrageous now is the failure of the District Court to grant the governments motion to dismiss and full acknowledgment of the fact that exculpatory material was withheld from the defense for all these years. I have no doubt theres more exculpatory evidence out there. They may want to use that for other cases or other prosecutions. But at the very least, our motion to dismiss should be granted, and thats why we filed the petition for writ of mandamus to ask the d. C. Circuit to instruct judge sullivan to grant it or to give us another District Court judge who can follow the law. Lou dont you believe its incumbent upon the attorney general of the United States to, to intercede with

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