Im larry kudlow. After allowing roughly 5 million wagecutting, rentspiking, lawbreaking, sex and drugtrafficking, terroristthreatening Illegal Migrants to come across an open border since january 2021, President Biden and his dhs secretary Alejandro Mayorkas have now decided, wait for it, wait some more, theyve decided that donald trump was right all along. Build that that wall. Sort of. Remember this from just a couple years ago in take a listen. Trump campaigned on build that wall. Are you willing to tear that wall down . No, im there will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration, number one. Number two, what im going to focus on, and youre the fact is that somebody in this group written a lot about the border. Im going to make sure that we have border protection, but its going to be based on making sure that we use hightech capacity to deal with it. And at the ports of entry, thats reporter [inaudible] larry well, anyway, that was a campaign promise. But 5 million illegals later, mr. Bidens kind of slow on the trigger, dont you think . Sort of like closing the barn door after the horses have already bolted. I think theyre only talking about less than 20 miles. 20 miles. Even that seems to be to assisted border authorities to babysit the illegals as they cross into the u. S. But what half the democrats concern with half the democrats in some kind of revolt against the illegal invasion of america, joe biden is desperately trying to put out a big political fire. I dont really believe a word of this stuff. Yesterday the dhs inserteded the following there is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States. Hurt. So hold up. Does biden agree with his own dhs that we need to finish the wall . No, of course not. No, its t all phony media stunt. Heres some more proof. Listen to this and weep. Ill answer one question on the border wall. The border wall, the money was appropriated for the border wall. I tried to get them to reappropriate, redirect that money. They didnt, they wouldnt. And in the meantime, theres nothing other to the wall reporter do you believe a border wall worksesome. No. Larry well, there you go. There you go. Anyway, mayorkas and other administrative people are harping on the need, i love this, to waive 26 federal laws including the clean air act, Safe Drinking Water act and endangered species act. Imagine that. Laws. Now, the one federal law that theyre not worried about breaking is the law that protects our borders by preventing illegal entries. Or the laws that protect americans sovereignty. Theyve been breaking those laws for three years. I dont hear anybody talking about that. Meanwhile, in an interview with our Brooke Singman of fox digital the, former President Trump said e and i will quote, biden sees our country as being invaded . Whats he going to do about the 15 Million People from prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums and terrorists that have already come into our country . End quote. And on truth social, the former president demanded an apology. Good luck on that, sir. And mr. Trump repeated that biden has to reinstate remain in mexico and title 42 in order to get serious about closing the border. The former president built close to 500 miles of the new border wall, and the whole thing could have been finished by now if biden had any horse sense. Mr. Trump supports catch and deport to go along with remain in mexico and title 42 and a completed wall. And if joe biden met those conditions, things would be a lot different. But no matter what phony election cycle promises biden is making, the reality is the biden democrats remain in favor of open borders. Nothing is going to change that. Period. All right. Just a few pearls of wisdom. Joining us now, florida congressman Byron Donalds and texas congressman troy nehls. Gentlemen, thank you for coming on. Mr. Byron donalds, im a sin isic, i dont believe a cynic e, i dont believe a word of it. Less than 20 miles. Its going to help some kind of entry points and baby sitting and registration. And if they were serious, theyd have done this three years ago. What do you think about this new announcement . This announcements come out, larry, simply because the president s poll numbers suck. Everybody knows our southern border is a mess. You have the mayor of new york, eric adams, is planning to go down to do something the president has never done, which is see the southern border in person and actually look at it. And so this white house is reeling. So they have to respond to the political damage theyve caused, the actual damage that theyve caused, and theyre going to throw this fig leaf. But theres significant work that needs to be done at the southern border. House republicans have a plan for that. Its called h. R. 2. Its sitting there for the senate to take up anytime that they want to. We are committed that as we e have to go through government appropriations that the border must be secured. Not this 20 miles that joe bidens talking about, its all the fixes in h. R. 2. Larry mr. Troy nehls, want to pick up from byron, h. R. 2 is a powerful piece of legislation. I dont hear the bidens embracing that. I dont hear the democrats, Chuck Schumer and the democrats, embracing that. But, you know, troy, heres my other thought. If they were serious about a real, you know, about face, okay in and, look, politicians, policymakers can change their minds, but if they were series, they would serious, they would be talking about title 42, they would be talking about remain in mexico, they would be talking about a truly across texas border wall, you know, finishing what trump started. And so forth and so on. They would be talking the language of closing the borders and protecting our sovereignty, congressman nehls. Im not hearing that language. Am i missing something . Yeah, youre not hearing that language because what you just said was exactly what trump did, and trumps border policies we had the most secure border of my lifetime. But on january 20th when joe biden took office, heerer stressed them reversed them all. He knew it wasnt good for america, but he did it because he hates donald trumpment he flipped everything on its head. But now its campaign season, folks. Remember, we got an election coming up in 2024. His poll numbers are in the toilet. In the toilet. And there are a few people, you know, whispering in his ear saying, joe, you better do something about this southern border, because the American People are paying attention. Youre losing your own conference. Even senator manchin said build the walsh weve got problems. So hes going to have to do something if he wanting talk about the nominee and eventually try to be the next president. But i think its too late. And its about damn time that this congress and the American People are paying attention. Because its destroying our country. You want to fix the border problem . Go right back to donald j. Trumps policies. And i loved it when you played joe biden sitting on that chair looking confused when they asked him do border walls work. He said no. I hope somebody asks him that on the stage in the 2024 campaign against donald trump, because donald trump will win the election just with that comment alone. Larry you know, byron, thats why i dont believe a word of this change or about face, and i dont hear them talking seriously either about h. R. 2 or, you know, catch and deport, think of the things, remain in mexico. I just dont buy it. Any of it. How about this, byron . You and i, we could he should apologize to donald trump. Mr. Trump asked for an apology because mr. Trump has been right all along. Now, byron, when do you think that apology from President Biden to donald trump is going to take place . Do you think thatll be soon, the apology . [laughter] man, i wish it were. I wish he actually would do the right thing, but i think that would probably come after to 2024 elections. It goes down to just a terrible defeat. And, frankly, or joe biden deserves to be defeat. Nothing is working right. Were talking about the border, but everything is going wrong. Hes the master of disaster, joe biden. Hes got to be defeated, its that simple. Larry troy, were you an official . Were you a border official before you came into congress . No, i was a county sheriff about four hours north larry ah, right. Of the border. Big can county. I had people in my county killed by illegals. Not just illegals, but ones that have been deported six, six previous times. Weve got a southern border crisis. Joe biden, you own it. And, yes, not only should he not get reelected, but he should also be impeached. Larry well, you know, they talk about, its so interesting to me, mayorkas and others talk about how theyre going to have to violate certain laws like the endangered species act, like thats the most important thing we should worry about at the border, the endangered species act. The endangered speedos cease down species down at the border is law and order. The one law they dont talk about is closed borders, is american sovereignty, is immigration laws that are being broken on a daily basis. My pal mark levin was on this show two nights ago talking about that. It could be an impeach impeachable offense. Theyre not talking about those laws. And thats one of the reasons this thing sounds so phony to me, troy. It does. And ill tell you, Governor Abbott and other governors are doing what they can to augment the border patrol. Texas was sending dps trooper, our National Guard to do what we can to secure the texas people. But when you have this administration and their attitude, we know this is borderless, its borderless by design. My books coming out, borderless by design is, because this is about votes in the future. Thats what this is all about. Its by design. Larry Byron Donalds, talk to us, if you would please, about h. R. 2. Whats in it and why it could solve the border problem. Well, we do a couple of things in that bill. We actually reinstate Border Agents ability to make determine neighs of credible fear. We do not allow people to claim asylum are at a illegal ports of entry, theyve got to do that in the nations that theyre in or at a country with the nearest consulate and or embassy. We actually would stop the use of the cpb one app. Thats an app that theyre using in the administration to basically put the asylum process on uber eats. You can just file for asylum wherever you want to, then just show up unannounced. It gets rid of those three things. It if out it puts cap on a number of asylums that can be triggered in a year for our country, it actually puts a number, a limit on bed spaces available. All common sense things so that people who want to come to our country through asylum or any other process, its orderly. Not just for those people, but its orderly for the country to accommodate and assimilate those people into our states and into our cities. The joe biden plan is no plan. Its pure chaoses and disaster. Thats why its got to be completely are undone. H. R. 2 can do that. Larry and, troy, were to going to get a change in leadership for the house republicans, i get that. But h. R. 2 will be a key component, i hope, of future budget negotiations whenever push comes to shove in the middle of november in the senate, the Democratic Senate may not like it, but can we count on republicans to push h. R. 2 hard . Because that would be an ultimate solution, i think, for the border crisis. Yeah, we did. And we did pass h. R. 2 in the republican conference. Youve got 2019 votes, it passed. We sent it over to Chuck Schumer, but we know hes not going to do anything about it. Hes not going to do anything with the conservative bills weve been passing in the house of representatives, and hes going to work with usual us at all. We need the white house back in 2024, is and you know who my guy is, donald j. Trump. Larry gentlemen, thank you very much. Mr. Byron ronalds donalds, great state of florida, congressman troy nehls of texas, thank you for coming on, appreciate it. Coming up on kudlow, trouble at the bidens, among other things, is they want less energy at home and less energy abroad. And i cant figure, you cant grow the economy without more energy. I dont get it. So were going to talk about it with former secretary of state mike pompeo owe. Please, stay with kudlow. Lets have some border order. 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Duckduckgo is a browser you download to your mobile and desktop devices. Unlike chrome, the duckduckgo browser has privacy builtin. It comes with a private alternative to google search, which doesnâ– t spy on your searches, and it blocks cookies and creepy ads. And theres no catch. Its free. We make money from ads, but they dont follow you around. Join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on mobile and desktop today. Larry so you cant grow the economy without energy. The bidens want less energy here at home and abroad. Joining us now to talk about it, we welcome back mike pompeo, distinguished former secretary of state, Fox News Contributor and author of never give an inch fighting for the america i love. Mr. Pompeo, it is good to see you again. I heard you gave a barn burner down at harold hamms conference. Must have been oklahoma, could have been texas [laughter] but basically, i was reading your remarks in breitbart, mike, and as i i mean, basically the bidens want less energy, period. Now, that is mostly weighted towards no fossil fuels, but they want less energy at home and less energy abroad, and im trying to figure out how you can grow economies or power economies without energy, mike pompeo i owe. So please e help me out here. [laughter] larry, its crazy. You know, you and i both worked in the trump administration. I worked on National Security, you were working on domestic and Energy Policy. They are so closely entwined, you cannot grow the American Economy, and you cant keep the American People safe without Affordable Energy. Theres all this talk about renewables. People just want affordables, right many they want to turn their lights on, they want to cool their home in the summertime and heat in the winter time and do so in a way thats consistent to their family budget. This administration has destroyed that opportunity. Theyve destroyed the Strategic Petroleum reserve, its now at its lowest levels in decades, theyve made it impossible to drill on federal lands, theyve made permitting a pipeline nearly impossible. Theyve done all the things that drivecrosses costs. And, you know, larry, you were talking earlier in your show about americas debt, 33 trillion. You have to reduce spending, but youve got to grow this economy to get that 33 trillion back under control. And you cannot do that without an independent Energy Policy from the United States of america where we are dominating the global space. We can do it, its the underground. It will create tens of thousands of jobs. Its good for america. Weve got to get back to that. We had it right for four years, larry, theyve now blown it all up. Larry and you say in this speech and interview a really important thing. I harp on this a lot, rick per arely harps on this a lot perry harps on this a lot on the show. This crazy Energy Policy which is really a no Energy Policy, this helps china. This helps russia. It doesnt help the United States. And it doesnt help our allies. And the other thing, mike, just recently, okay, so saudis and the russians with venezuela and iran, otherwise known as opec , cut back on production, drive the oil price up. At one point it got back to nearly 100. Its its its a little slower now. But the reality is were helpless. Were like a paper tiger because of this goofy Energy Policy. Here we go again, damaging National Security abroad and Economic Security at home. No, you nailed it. If you shut in American Energy by denying Capital Providers the chance to invest and get a return on their capital to build up lng terminals and export facilities and all the pipelines, when you shut that down, we are in for a long run where america is at the mercy of the rest of the world for its energy. It doesnt have to be. There are problems that are complicated and there are tradeoffs. This one, theres no tradeoff. If you want a cleaner world, dont send your energy to be burned in china. Dont manufacture it there with coal thats polluting the world. If you really think Climate Change is a problem, make it in america. Make it with American Energy. It will be cleaner and safer, and americans will