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FOXNEWSW The July 4, 2024

In fact, the date proposed is the day before Super Tuesday. How do you think this is going over for the former president and his team right now . That could force him to lose a very critical election window ahead of, you know, actually determining who the nominee is. In march, trial date for the disgraced four times indicted x president had to count there. Laura its like they are all ready to pop. They do have that special glow. They are expecting that trumps legal troubles will deliver a surprise next year this handicaps donald trump. It hurts donald trump. This is a general election challenge for the president that likely emboldens the incumbent joe biden. Laura these selfproclaimed defenders of democracy, they want you to believe that their priority is restoring respect and dignity to journalism and to politics. Its going to be justice for all. But, when you listen coastally, you see what they are really all about. They are really accusing trump of what they, themselves are. Just Vengeful Idealogues Who Revel in the humiliation and shame of others. In everything youre going to be able to see live on tv. There are going to be mug shots there are going to be fingerprints. Donald trump will be fingerprinted. He will be photographed. And end up with a mugshot. The very first president ial mugshot. How is a mugshot of the former president in any way necessary or in any way good for america . Are they really worried that he is going to disappear into the general population or that as a 2024 president ial candidate that he is going to try to leave the country, flee . I half expect him to push for bail to be set at A Billion Dollars that will show him. The sick fantasy never ends. Donald trump will find it very difficult to be even be given bail. There is bail. That is the thing that he is not factoring in if he continues speaking the way he has been speaking one, if not more of these judges will take action. Laura will take action. Of course for years the Humiliation Squad has been itching to see not just that trump mugshot, but also to have him behind bars. You are saying that a judge could lock limb up awaiting trial. It would be incremental punishment. The first thing donald trump has to do is go to jail. He is now facing jail time and a whole bunch of different places. Laura now, think about how strange and how sad it is to be a political analyst and what you are hoping for most is to take an opposition candidate off the Campaign Trail so no real debate, no real campaign, just to be silenced. If not put in actual prison, they ponder how to some him from doing more socalled damage to america. Theres this question of how do you contain donald trump, perry. She could also revoke his bail and put him under house arrest. Laura house arrest. Of course. Even thats not good enough for these vipers. So the big thinkers over at salon described trump under house arrest and trump being deprived of his phone as somewhat unsatisfying. But it actually gets worse. Amanda marcotte wrote its better for everyone if trump actually loses freedom from these threatening antics. Its better for almost everyone for trump to be in prison, not be able to speak . Certainly the 74 million who voted for trump in 2020 would beg to differ not that salon actually considers those 74 Million People to be actual human beings entitled to their own views. And as usual, as part of their act, democrats always seize the opportunity to portray donald Trump Supporters as potential domestic terrorists. The country shouldnt be directed by them. It should be protected from them. We had increasing amount of security outside of the Fulton County courthouse. The Security Concerns around the courthouse and what might happen in georgia as this case progresses. She has reached out to the sheriffs for protection. She has notified the judges to have them keep their staff at home. Laura whats really going on here . Could this be the pretext to justify not just limits on trumps own speech, but 2024 limits on campaign rallies, campaigning at all or even in Person Voting . Those poll workers in georgia who received were targets of such hate and terrible racism and threats of violence because they were unfairly maligned by trump. Theres real concerns about elections this time around. Violence is always looming on the hoards, especially in this moment. Just half a percent or even a percent of that half of percent think that violence is the answer, they are going to go after these folks. This is very scary. Laura what is scary is that their entire reason for being, for living seems to be singularly focused on seeing trump humiliated. By the way these fanatics arent just giddy because they want to see trump shamed in these trials and everything that will come with the trials, they also firmly believe that they are putting Conservative Populism on trial as well. Now, we all know and i certainly know as a former criminal kevins attorney that anything can happen when juries are involved. Even in what are obviously politically motivated prosecutions. But, anyone predicting that the pig pile that were seeing on trump, predicting that thats going to lead to the demise of the America First movement, well, that person himself will be humiliated down the road. And thats the angle. Joining us now is stephen miller, former Senior Adviser to President Trump and founder of America First legal. Steven, given these proposed court dates, by jack smith and fani willis, does anyone really expect the American People to believe that this isnt a series of political hit jobs designed to interfere with the election next year . No. And not even trying to hide it, laura. Lets be honest. As you played all the sound during your exemplary analysis they are giddy about it. They are gleeful. They are excited. Their goal is to pull up Trumpest Poppism by root and branch from this country. As you said they will fail and they will fail spectacularly. They are going to causes a much damage human personal damage not just to hurt President Trump but to hurt his allies, hurt his supporters, financially ruin and jail anyone that they can thats associated with him and inflict as much pain as possible thats their objective. Its openly political. Its open vendetta ultimately the American People will have to decide whether thats a system authoritarian ideology they want to support. Laura speaking of populism, steven, and what their real goal here is to go back to the old rockefeller style republicanism. The issue of his tore i cant bees weighing in. Which we have seen a lot. The historians claiming that, well, if you dont defeat trump, if you dont jail trump, youre basically letting a combination of hitler, stalin, pal pot and every other dictator back into the white house. This is from walter isaac son. This combination of populism and yearning for the strong man, most of the time deceivers break. Sometimes they dont. We have a couple examples where the fever didnt break and it led to wars. There has actually been a reduction in the sense that democracy is the core is what america is all about. Laura steven, last time i checked jailtiming your political opponent or trying to jail your political opponent is what we saw with what putin just did with navalny, extending his sentence by, what another 17 years a couple weeks ago . Thats what putin and xi do. Yes. At least, at least four regimes pretend that people theyre jailing are guilty of spying. That theyre agents of a foreign country. Now, here in america, we are just imprisoning people for speech we dont like. We are imprisoning people for asking them to lobby a State Legislature or to watch a particular tv program. Thats where we have gotten to in this country. We are going to throw conservative lawyers in jail if we disagree with their faithfully argued legal theories. As i said, this is a truly authoritarian ideology that we are seeing from the left in america today, from the Democratic Party in america today. And i believe that they are laying out the template to criminalize speech and political dissent amongst every day americans. So, in other words, and you allude to this in your monologue, by describing President Trump as an enemy of the state, the creating a foundation to treat his supporters as the same. To treat their speech as the same. Its not free speech, its hate speech. And hate speech must be policed. And hate speech is dangerous. Its a threat to public order. And those who spread it must be punished. So i really think this is a dangerous moment, laura. Laura stephen, quickly, do you agree that there is a Building Movement out there on the left to push for some type of emergency, you know, order in various states given the threats because of these trials . I mean, i foresee that being used in all sorts of ways during this campaign. Maybe all the way into the fall of 2024. Oh, unquestionably. No, they have pierced that vale. The idea that free speech is sacred in america is dead now. Theres now criminal speech in this country. They say that if they dont like your speech, that speech is violent that speech is dangerous. That speech is a threat to public safety. They laid out the template when they policed covid speech and now they are prosecuting President Trump and his attorneys under that exact same theory so youre right, laura, that is what is coming next. Laura stephen, great to see you. Thank you. Now to the judge assigned to trumps georgia case, scott mcafee, he graduated from the university of Georgia Law School about 10 years ago and has been a judge for six whole months. But the most interesting thing about him is something that the New York Times of all places pointed out. That he used to work for the d. A. Who brought the case fani willis. Joining us now is jonathan turley, Professor Of Law at g. W. University and a Fox News Contributor. Professor turley, look, the legal world is quite intertwined. All of us know someone who used to work for someone. But, given the importance of this case, is this is this a little too close for comfort if you are one of these 19 defendants . You know, im going to give this judge the benefit of the doubt. Well have to see how he performs. He is young. He doesnt have a lot of experience. But he does, as a judge, he does have experience in the courtroom. You know, the key, laura, in my view, in these cases, is really the essence of the judge as opposed to the extent of their experience. What you really want someone from someone is that they are going to listen to both sides, to be fair to understand this is historical moment and what that moment calls for is to assure both sides of this deeply divided country that this is going to be a fair trial and its always concerning with state judges that have to stand for election, you know, being viewed as in any way helpful to donald trump in atlanta is not a way to get reelected. Its going to take great deal of courage from this young judge to say im going to do this the right way. Even if its taken the wrong way by many people who will be voting in the judicial election. Laura ted we learned that fani willis wants to start this trial on march 4th. Just one day after Super Tuesday. One day before Super Tuesday, excuse me. Will this fairly expedite the schedule in terms of this type of litigation, will this run into problems . He. It is clearly going to run into problems. Im speaking as a criminal defense attorney, that this schedule is really imrosly unfair. To donald trump i mean, what she is suggesting, 1 people. 19 people on trial. And this is going to be this massive production and she is going to do it in this rather short period of time. Now, the defense has to go through what are effectively three grand juries. Three years of investigation there is can 19 defendants that may have conflicts. There is going to be a flurry of motions. Constitutional questions raised. On indictments but jamming together these trials. Daisy chaining tm from Super Tuesday to vishted actually the inauguration if you count the civil cases as well. At some point judges are going to have to step in and be a mature voice and say, look, okay, stop it this guy has got to prepare a defense in multiple cases. You are not the first prosecutor to file. And get in line it not on the part of meadows but others working in a federal capacity that it all could be moved to Federal Court and especially given the duel track with jack smith, a lot of the same claims are covered albeit on a state level. It is possible because we are living in uncertain and Interesting Times which itself is a curse. You know, the there are issues here that President Trump will raise some of these actions occurred when he was president. Some of the conversations that are cited occurred in the oval office. Some occurred with his associates. In some ways willis may have really tripped the wire here. You know, i called this sort of the Jackson Pollock school of prosecution. She threw everything against the canvas and looked to see if a picture emerged. Said this is all one big conspiracy. Every tweet, every speak that we site. Well, by doing that she also tripped wires with regard to his time as president. 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The ultimate protection for your vehicle. Laura you have to admit liberals do hyperbole really well. Yesterday on cnn. They resurrected one of our favorite trump era refrains. Do you see echos of watergate in this or is it bigger than that. Its much bigger than watergate, kaitlin, its of a whole different dimension. It goes to the very foundation of democracy. Laura who thought cadavers could actually talk. Well, that was john dean all right. Trumps georgia indictment is worse than watergate. Well, its a tried and true trope, these lazy commentators have. Especially ones dining out on watergate like 50 years later and they have within using it even before trump was in office in 2016. You want to talk about something bigger than watergate if it turns out that russian espionage in fact had been, you know, hacking into the dnc with an attempt to tip the election which by the way we know has actually been happening. That actually is bigger than watergate. Laura , the Russia Collusion Hoax was the beginning of the watergate obsession. Well, it continued from before trump was inaugurated all the way through his first year in office. I think this is actually bigger than watergate now. This could explode to being bigger than watergate. Imagine if the Watergate Break In had been carried out with the support of the then soviet union and i think you get a scale. These are the nights when we need our experienced voices who can remember the rumblings of watergate and what that momentum felt like. Laura and then bob mueller happened. His appointment brought the Watergate Fantasy back into focus. I do think the Mueller Investigation could end up being bigger than watergate. It is far more complicated than watergate. It watergate was algebra, this is calculus. Is this worse than watergate . Its a question you probably heard before. Bob mueller is beginning to answer that tonight. I feel confident were going to get it out. Theres just no way this is bigger than watergate. Were just going to have to know. Laura but when mueller and russia gate fizzled, well, they had to find something new. Alas, the trump phone call to zelenskyy, watergate. This is something very different. And this is worse than watergate. Chris, it is worse than watergate in that what you described largely dealt with the coverup. Laura trump was impeached for attempting to get to the bottom of the corruption we now know the bidens actually were engaged in. But that doesnt matter because then we had january 6th and the hearings that followed the following year. We have said this a lot in the last 30, 40 years, ari, but this literally is worse than watergate. I think what trump did in january and the runup to january 6th was 100 times worse than anything Richard Nixon did. This is so much worse than watergate. This is a watershed moment for our democracy. Laura totally. But it wouldnt be watergate without dragging out the two key figures in the scandal. The Gum Shoe Reporters who now get are issued poorly sourced books off their books poorly sourced and of course their cnn hits u of m. Just ahead bob woodward and Karl Bernstein are here to talk to us today about very

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