Districts and dont want to be seen as being overly supportive of jim jordan. That said, they might vote differently on the second or third ballot. I think the first ballot is kind of posturing. A sense of where everyone is. And now as you have reported, jim jordan knows who is left out there, who opposes him. And well see if hes there to pull them over. I dont think the party wants a repeat of either what happened two weeks ago or what happened, you know, when mccarthy was first elected. All those ballots. Right now i think there is a sense, its more important to have a speaker at this time than maybe your first choice as speaker. John well, better some speaker than the one you want, interesting way to put it. Right. John if i was curious to note that the number of people who voted no for jim jordan was about the same as voted no for mccarthy back in january. He eventually won them over after extraordinary amount of Horse Trading, including a measure that ended up being his demise. Kind of signed his own Death Warrant with one of those compromises. But did eventually get to the magic number. Do you think jordan can engage in Horse Trading with the holdouts and make it away the finish line . Well, hes going to have to if he wants to be speaker. Hes going to have to do that. From my point of view, i dont know why you would want to be republican speaker right now when you have a small minority willing to work with the democrats to bring you down. I think if i were running, i would have made a condition they get rid of that vote that right for just one member to call for a vote to drag the speaker down. That said, they didnt do that, and well see how good a horse trader jim jordan is. But i say, with all the trouble in the world, i think that Republican Party really needs a speaker and at this point they are not going to get who are they going to get that would be better than jim jordan at this point . I dont think there is someone out there. John that was my next question. Does tom emmer throw his hat in the ring for the nomination, and chad pergram has been talking about the potential to adopt a new measure in the house to allow for Patrick Mchenry to become temporary speaker so congress can do whatever it needs to do to help out our closest ally in the middle east, israel, to get a budget resolution going, or continuing resolution, however they might do that. Do they need to adopt new rules here if they cant all get on the same page with who they like and it stands, bill, in sharp contrast with the democrats of the person who voted for hakeem jeffries. Thats a good point. If you go back to nancy pelosi, she had a very small minority in the house but the democrats in the end were able to keep Party Discipline and she was very successful in getting liberal stuff passed because she kept the Party Disciplined and i wish the Republican Party would show that, too. This is not good for the party. And the way we know that, democrats are not coming to the rescue. You know, they didnt rescue mccarthy, they didnt help out jordan here, they kind of like the chaos on the other side. John you know, i want to ask you, bill, because im here in israel, and you wrote a column about this. In which you said that iran is the greatest obstacle to peace in the middle east. President biden is coming tomorrow to talk to Benjamin Netanyahu, bring with him a number of requests, a couple of which are, he wants a briefing on what israels aims and strategy is on the ground and in the air, for that matter, if they mount the Ground Operation and how do they assure the safety of the palestinians. But the president keeps on punting on the idea of iran being behind this. He says theres no direct evidence they were involved here and maybe there isnt any direct evidence they were involved in this particular operation. I talked to one fella today who knows a lot about hamas and he doesnt even know if the Political Leadership of hamas was aware of this. But you know, in the United States we have a law regarding Material Support for terrorism and that dictates that if you supply supplies to terrorists, you are just as guilty as they are. Should that be invoked here when it comes to iran . Well, lets put it this way. Iran has been Killing Americans for a long time, 30 americans were killed in this attack, with support provided by iran and its not the first time. And its understandable, joe biden doesnt want to mention iran, because his iran policies trying to entice them to the table and giving, on freezing 6 billion in oil revenues dont look good in the rearview mirror. So i hope we get some clarity on this. One of the things thats missing from this in talking about irans role is that its not only israel that is concerned about this. Arguably the arab countries are more concerned about irans role because mischief in yemen, syria, iraq, all sorts of arab countries have iran proxies creating havoc. So i hope we get some clarity on both sides, what the israelis are going to do and what the americans want to do. I wish President Biden well but im skeptical because it would require a strength of character to say our policies were misguided, we have to reverse them, and to do something strong. I think hell do a lot of good gestures, and say a lot of good words, but im skeptical he has it in his character to do something strong. John so here is what you write in your oped about biden, and his approach to iran. Says mr. Biden is right to worry about escalating this conflict but the fear of escalation can make escalation a certainty if it is read as weakness. By now our experience in the middle east ought to have taught us that when people say they want to kill you, believe them. You know, yoni diller who survived the super nova Music Festival said hamas is out to kill israelis and the only way to do it is get rid of hamas. Is iran is bank rolling hamas, does iran not have a price to pay here . It should. I dont know what it is, i would like to see what netanyahus policy is and give the president time to come up with his. But the fact that he dithered so long, even about refreezing the oil revenues, is not a good sign. And it worries me. And here is the big question. If iran is such a regime, motivated by willingness to pay proxies to kill americans, can we really let them get a nuclear weapon, can you imagine what they would do if they had a nuke . Even if they dont use it, the fact is it would insulate them from attacks. You cant always seems to me joe biden, his primary concern is will the enemy escalate, like putin. And its a concern, but it cant paralyze you because they read it as weakness and they get more aggressive. John President Biden has sent the u. S. S. Gerald Ford Carrier Group to the Eastern Mediterranean on standby, eisenhower is on its way, the 26th Marine Expeditionary unit is moving up the red sea, dont know what the final destination is, whether it will transit the suez canal or go up the gulf toward the south. Thats obviously meant as a deterrence. But if there isnt tough language toward iran about dont you dare let hezbollah get involved in this, the great fear here in israel is the moment that the Ground Forces go into northern gaza, thats what hezbollah will pull the trigger on the missiles, and they can hit tel aviv. If you dont use Strong Language to say to iran stay out of this, instead of saying dont dont dont dont dont in an interview, are you really projecting strength . Yeah, i would go even further, john. As a former president ial speech writer, you know, i value words. Words are very important. Joe biden has said a lot of the right words on israel. I think it demands more than words. We are going to have to back up these things. Its good to send a Carrier Group in, but are they just for show. You know, remember saddam. Saddam didnt think he was in any danger even after the first attacks. He thought he would just live through it. I think thats how a lot of our enemies feel. There will be a Show Of Force but wont mean anything and i think if hes tested, joe biden has to respond and the hope is that he shows enough strength before that he isnt tested. John well, he will be here in about 12 hours, see what the day brings tomorrow. Bill mcgurn, good to get your take. Good column today, by the way, as well. Sandra lets bring in florida congressman byron donalds. Thanks for jumping on with us, there you are live in the halls we just heard from Kevin Mccarthy a few moments ago as jim jordan has not gotten the votes on the first round, congressman. Mccarthy saying i think the difference here is we have rules, so we could sit down and talk to these other members and be able to move forward. What is going to happen so your party can move forward . Well, ill tell you, i agree with Kevin Mccarthy. I think that the path what we should do right now is recess for a little bit, give jim jordan an opportunity to talk to these members who have voted for other people and then lets see where we go from there. Look, i think us Coming Together And Finding A speaker and electing that person is very, very possible. I support jim jordan. That is the place i am going to remain. We need to make sure we give him the opportunity to bring those votes together. I think he can do that. Sandra what should people take away from what they have been witnessing happening there with the members on capitol hill. Well, look, even when i said this back in january, this place is not what it used to be. The Business As Usual of washington is not the State Of Play anymore. Members are going to make these individual decisions for themselves. I actually encourage them to make these decisions. But now i believe is a time for the members to unite around jim jordan so we can get back to the business up here on capitol hill. For people to think that leadership by acclimation is going to be the State Of Play going forward, its simply not the case in washington anymore. Sandra congressman, can you break any news here, are you hearing from any of those members who did not throw their support behind jim jordan if they might do so a Second Time Around . Im not going to break news. I have talked to one member, probably talk to a few more. Those are conversations i need to keep private out of respect to those members and their positions. My only ask of them is that they decide, they make the decision to change their vote, support jim jordan so we can get back to work and govern this country. There is no governance coming out of the white house. We see whats going on over there and its no leadership whatsoever. House republicans are going to have to lead this nation right now. Sandra what do you know about whats happening right now, the house has gone into recess. Is there going to be a second vote here soon . I believe there is going to be another vote today, i dont know that for sure, but the decision was made to go into recess to give speaker designate jordan the opportunity to go and talk to the members and bring them to his side. He needs to have the opportunity to do that. Im glad we recessed so he can ma i can that happen. Sandra have you had a chance to talk to him since this vote concluded . Very, very briefly. But look, i know that jim is going to be doing what he needs to do, talking to these members. So having a conversation with me right now doesnt really help. I would rather he talk to the members and try to get them to come to his side. Sandra what are you urging for him for the sell . For me its very simple. We have an opportunity to go back to work, finish the appro appropriations process, and days of leadership telling the members whats going to happen on the day you have to vote, i think those days are over. That is a good thing for the country. But is it going to be the seamless line of decisionmaking which has led us to 33 trillion in debt, no, its going to be messy at times. But we have to do this hard work if we are going to get america back on track. Sandra we did see more than a dozen republicans vote for other options, Kevin Mccarthy, Steve Scalise, i suppose that Behind Closed DoorsSteve Scalise could be out there pushing those who voted for him to vote for jordan, that could be happening, right . And also be clear. Leader scalise also voted for Jim Jordan On The Floor and imploring his people who have supported him to vote for jim jordan, the same thing with Kevin Mccarthy. And so i think that right now we are going to go and frankly handle this in a lot of different conference rooms, phone conversations, i fully expect Kevin Mccarthy and Leader Scalise are going to be involved in that in some way, shape or form, and be able to leave town with the speaker of the house and go do the work we must do. Sandra quick question before you go, as axios heading into this was talking about the Pressure Campaign building to vote for jim jordan. Some were anonymously telling sources they were getting bullied. Was any of that a turnoff for some of these members . I believe it was. I have talked to a couple members, they felt thats not what they needed. I dont think thats what we should be doing right now. And listen, for all of the voters in our country, i think its important for members to hear your voice and i totally respect that. But i think that there are members up here who they want to be able to make this decision on leadership, and then move forward. I think some of the Pressure Campaigns have backfired, they have not worked, and so i think that right now under the leadership of jim jordan, you know, i would request people just take a break, take a pause, let the members work and figure this out amongst ourselves so we can elect jim jordan as speaker and then we can get back to work to the work that we have to do. Sandra our camera is up, and if theres any further updates, jump on in there, let us know how its going and we will see when the second ballot happens. Thank you so much for joining us, congressman. Appreciate it. Thank you. Sandra all right, john. John a live look at the pentagon, we await a briefing later this hour. The Deputy Press Secretary expected to face plenty of questions how the u. S. Is planning to boost the presence in the middle east and we enter day 11 of the war on israel. Sandra and here are where things stand at this hour. President biden is gearing up for a high stakes trip to the middle east, ahead of what is expected to be a Ground Invasion inside gaza. John the pentagon putting u. S. Soldiers on notice ordering 2,000 troops to be ready to deploy to israel. Purely in a supportive role and those selected troops would not engage in combat. Sandra and earlier today, Hamas Military Wing says an airstrike in the central gaza strip killed a stop commander. Peter doocy is live at the white house as the president prepares to take off for his high stakes trip. John mike tobin is live about an hour and 15 minutes away from where we are in southern israel. Defense forces gear up for an allout invasion in gaza. Mike, the question is, when will they pull the trigger on that . Mike what we are hearing from the Israeli Defense force, it will happen when they believe the conditions are right. You have hostages inside of the gaza trip. Mia shim is one of them, one of the young people who attended the raid kibbutz and went missing. Her mother confirmed and learned she was a hostage when hamas released a video. What is it like you learn your child has been taken hostage . I think its the Worst Nightmare for every mother in the world to know that her child has been taken hostage by animals. You dont know what they are doing to her. Do they give her food, will she sleep, i mean, this is the Worst Nightmare in the world. Did you know she was alive after the attack . No. I didnt know shes dead or alive. I knew nothing until yesterday. That i saw this video and the first reaction was screaming and then shouting. The other reaction was the happiest moment in my life. And the third reaction after everybody went home and i sat alone and watched the video, i couldnt stop crying because i see my baby in pain, physical pain, i see shes very scared, shes very white. Do you have a message to her captors . I demand you to bring my baby home now. The same situation, she is in the video, you cant take a child, an innocent child that just went to a festival to have some fun and to shoot her and to drag her and to scare her and god knows what else. Mike and we are following reports in the gaza strip, in fact, gaza city, where there has been an israeli airstrike, palestinians claim they hit a hospital in which civilians were sheltering. The Palestinian Health ministry describing it as a Mass Civilian Casualty event. Through the Associated Press is saying the strike just happened and they are assessing the situation. John. John ok, more information on that to come. Mike tobin, thank you. Sandra. Sandra President Biden meanwhile will be heading to the middle east to