Kayleigh two News Conferences on the massacre in maine wrapping up last hour. Law enforcement intensify the manhunt for 40yearold robert card who they say murdered people and injured more. He should be considered armed and dangerous. He is Firearm Instructor trained by the military and recent history being treated for Mental Health. Entire county on lockdown, dozens of schools closed and residents have been told to Shelter In Place. Im kayleigh mcenany, this is outnumbered. Here with my cohost, Emily Compagno and harris faulkner, also joining us, fox news contributor, marie harf and marc thiessen, fox news contributor. Lets go to nate, who is live with more. Nate. 17 hours in and robert card still out there. We did not get a lot of information specifically about where authorities think he is. We did get more information about the victims and number of People Killed is actually lower than previously reported, still a tragic and senseless loss of life. You mentioned 18 People Killed, 13 injured. We learned how it happened. Just before 7 00, card is accuse of going to a local Bowling Alley and murdering seven people, 12 minutes later going to billiard bar and restaurant and murdering eight people there. Three people taken to hospitals later died, bringing total number of People Killed toena. Right now he is wanted for murder, eight counts of murder, the reason is 10 of the victims have yet to be identified and you mentioned, he is considered armed and dangerous. The scary thing in this community, nobody knows where he is. Businesses right now are closed. Mostly the only people out are members of the media and Law Enforcement. After what happened last night, everyone is on edge. But on top of that, cards background is concerning. He was or is Petroleum Supply specialist in the army and has a history of Mental Health concerns. Talked about Hearing Voices in his head and talked about carrying out a shooting at National Guard base in maine and was committed to a Mental Health facility for two weeks this summer. Schools are closed. Even portland schools are closed. There are reports possibly he crossed state lines and has gotten to massachusetts, that is not confirmed. We are working to confirm new information right now. The car he had was found in lisbon, one of the three towns where there is Shelter In Place order right now. The governor said just moments ago, this is a horrible loss of life and the Healing Process is only beginning. The people of maine will go through the process together. Back to you. Kayleigh no doubt. He grieve for maine this hour. Thank you, nate. Bring in Chris Swecker formerly with the fbi. Chris, thank you for being here. Most immediate question that comes to mind, last night they secured perimeter around that abandoned subaru by the boat lift. There is fear he has a scanner. What are the odds hes at that area or perhaps in a different state . Chris he had a switch car there like a bank robber does, a switch car, and hes within hundreds of miles from the scene or he had something staged there or a plan where he was going to get in a boat or go off into the wilderness there, that rural woodsy area, which is very similar to what we saw with eric rudolph. It is pretty vast. If he has a camp somewhere, prepositioned, which he may have, it will take a long time to get him out of there. It will end badly, i think. If hes in there, they will find him, it will take a longer time. Kayleigh we hope not long. I know that community is in great fear and trepidation. Talk about what we know about this individual. We do know that he is described as Hearing Voices. He spent two weeks in a Mental Health facility over the summer. What occurred to me, secret Service Assessment in january, they studied mass attacks and here is what they found. They made clear that the vast majority of individuals who experience Mental Health issues do not commit acts of crime or violence. Symptoms are contributing factors and not causal explanation. But of 180 attackers in the report, 58 experienced Mental Health systems. The texas tech shooter did. Are Warning Signs missed . Chris absolutely, i say in mass shootings, there are signs. Some more extreme than others. In this case, it was extreme, he was flashing red. Kayleigh wow. Chris he looked for help. He had ideation of committing violence against his own National Guard unit. He had restraining order, Domestic Violence incidents, i dont know another set of facts where someone was more flashing red. As conservative, i dont like gun control, bullet i do believe there is room for redflag laws so sheriffs deputy or someone can go out and get an order and go to the house and take the guns. Kayleigh final question for you, in this case, blaring red signals as to Mental Health issues. He had threatened to shoot within the base he was stationed at. Twothirds of the 180 attackers studied, 66 engaged in prior threatening or concerning communication. Again, does something need to change . Does the law need to change . You communicate your intent, 66 of the time in cases we look at. Chris we get civil Restraining Orders everyday. As an attorney, i do it quite a bit. It is showing evidence to magistrate or judge and they make a decision and issue order and Law Enforcement serves the order and in this case, if in a perfect world, they would be able to go in the house and take any guns that are present. You dont go to the door and say, can i have your gun. You go and serve the order and find the guns and take them. You might take further step to have the person institutionalized for a period of time. In some places, two weeks, some places longer. Kayleigh Chris Swecker, thank you for your expertise. Chris thank you. Kayleigh harris, he targeted this Bowling Alley, it was kids night, youth night. Your thoughts . Harris Youth Bowling League there. Couple things, he mentioned flashing red, there is yellow flag law there. They do have some structure to how they can get and find out who among us should be people who have guns taken away, should get medical help. Unfortunately, what paul morrow, nypd was telling me, this guy likely checked himself in for two weeks. Two weeks is a long time, they must have seen something. Like baker law, redflag type laws which would institutionalize you for a period of time, 72 times. Two weeks are a long time. If he did that, it would be on the responsibility and onus of people, doctors, nurses, people in the medical facility to contact police. Without doing that in the state of maine, they cant just take away his guns. It is Law Enforcement, police and prosecutors. Redflag laws allow you to do that, yellow doesnt. I loved what paul said. They will investigate and do all of that, but the killer did this. Yeah. So can they fortify maybe some links along the chain to figure out what was a loophole and what person didnt check that. They can and should. The person who did this was and is a killer and where he is now is critically important. It is not just the car he dumped. It is two boats he can get his hands on and we know he was going down the androscoggin, following that river from town to town, that is how you get there. He could have been on the water. You talk about neighboring state, a lot of places he could be. He can evade and hide, there are nothing experts are telling me or have to indicate that he wanted suicide by cop this late in the game. He may have initially wanted that, but he did tell people around him, he was Hearing Voices and wanted to attack the Military Base. All that is true, what hes doing now is evasive and hes built for that, and can do that. Kayleigh marc thiessen, we see it every single time. I was reading article by miguel farria, the sandy hook shooter was in need of Mental Health evaluation. The gabby gaffordshooter, the aurora shooter, Virginia Tech, every single time. Marc great point you made in the interview. In a lot of cases, these were civilians, you had like a parent that didnt notice or want to believe their child was mentally ill. Not professionals, just People Living their daily life, caring for people and missing the sign. Here, this guy is member of military, Firearm Instructor, telling people he wanted to shoot a Military Base. These are Government Officials that missed this. We dont know the details, there is a lot to learn. There is different standard for disarming military Firearm Instructor who said he wants to shoot up Military Base than for a kid who might be acting out and you dont know he is serious about it. Harris we dont know that. Kayleigh emily, speaking from a legal perspective, in the Virginia Tech case, two Female School mates this guy sent threatening messages to, he was deemed imminent danger to himself and others. Court of law involved and nothing happened. It seems like institutional failure. Emily which seems to be totally prevalent here in the United States. Gavin debecker has outlined and identified what are predictors for violence and the violence that include lack of boundaries and stalkings or these types of shooting. It is predictable and doesnt mean if you have those things this will happen. If it happens, that person had all those things and the fact so many people knew about those red flags, i use that not legally, is so sad, it means this was preventable and i want to underscore the fact being a member of Army Reserves and any type of Veteran Community and consistently being let down by amount of resources and type of resources. Im not a man of bloated legislation, the point and issue remains the men and women in service during and after are woefully being failed by everyone in congress and in leadership who is not identifying where and how they need the kind of help that is based on real data and real listening and not just throwing money at a problem or shoving something into antiquated rubric. I hope the outcome is successful, apprehended with zero injury to Law Enforcement. Calls to mind the cavalcante convicted murderer and thanks to federal and state resources and u. S. Border patrol Tactical Unit and canine yoda, apprehended with zero injury to Law Enforcement. I pray it ends there and he is apprehended successfully. Kale you dont often see mass shooters at large. Marie mark and i know maine, there are a lot of places to hide in maine, forest land and places where there are not a lot of people. Given his background, hopefully he is apprehended sooner rather than later. You mentioned so many of them, you see flags before something happens. Remind people, that people with Mental Health who have firearms are most dangerous to themselves. Talk about death by suicide or people that have no other place to turn, we cant forget that. Whether people with red flags should have access to firearms for their own safety and safety of others, im glad were having this conversation even though this is a horrible, horrible tragedy and horrible way to have it. Kayleigh important conversation and make clear as Secret Service did, half the nation some point will have Mental Health, no way do we want to stigmatize Mental Health. Maine police are asking for help, if you have information about robert card, Contact Authorities at number on the screen. Harris turn to middle east and tension with United States and iran rapidly getting hotter by the day. More than 20 americans have been injured by Drone Attacks on their Military Bases inside iraq and syria, they are targeting Military Personnel and we knew this was coming. They have the proxy assets to do it. Iranianbacked groups have hit us at least 13 times in just the past week. Iran already warned israel it would attack if they invaded gaza and now President Biden is upping the ante, issuing a stark warning toward thing the islamic that americans will not tolerate attacks on troops overseases. President biden my warning to the ayatollah, if they continue to move against troops, we will respond and he should be prepared, nothing to do with israel. Harris the president has been hit for more words than action and what i am prayerful about, he is taking some great action they cooked up in the Situation Room with a bevy of pentagon officials and generals and just cant tell us. Marc i hope so, hes inching closer and closer to Donald Trumps policy, he drew a red line with iran. He said if you or one of your proxies kill a single american, we will take Military Action against iran. Harris our men and women have been hurt, at least two dozen. Is it dotted . Marc 30 american dead in israel, people taken hostage and no consequences. When trump was president , he drew the red line, if you kill an american, we will strike at you and you will pay the price. When they crossed that line, he Killed Soleimani and said i picked out 52 targets in honor of the targets you took in 1979, if you i will hit them hard and fast and they backed down. They backed down and peace broke out. He signed four abraham accords. When bullies back down when they face overwhelming force. The reason iran is not backing down, they think joe biden is more fearful of escalation than they are. He needs to draw a seer credible red line, reiterate the trump red line. If you touch a single hostage, Hamas Holding hostage, we hold you, ayatollah, responsible, you will pay the price, not hamas. Harris what im concerned about and i appreciate you so much taking us back through what we lived through as americans during the trump administration. He also holds the distinction in the open era of being the only president that russia did not go to war with a neighbor under. Kayleigh, what concerns me now, though, with this president , if the expectation is to take action, what would that be after all of the death and carnage that we have already seen . This red line, his former boss, obama, said red line with syria and that was an invisible red line that maybe only obama could see. Kayleigh cautionary tail and obama drew a red line, went unenforced and what did putin do . Went in to assad, ukraine. I love that you ask is the red line perforated or dotted . Vivid way to describe that. Blinken laid out that red line before United Nations and biden underscored it. We have already had Many Service Members injured from iran, where is the red line . It seems pretty weak at this moment. Marc trump enforced obamas red line twice. If you use chemical weapons, we will strike you. Obama didnt and trump did it twice. They kept using them, red lines are interesting communication tactic, diplomatic and deterrence tactic. Iran should be on notice, the conversation they are having with israelis how to prevent iran from encouraging hezbollah to undertake fullscale attack on israel on second front and not get more iranian proxies aggressive against israel while israel focuses on gaza inform intelligence, there are covert ways to hold iran accountable, some of us are familiar with them, some have been reported publicly. I think iran is nervous harris really . Marie i think they probably are, this feels like a different moment in the region. A lot of countries, including the abraham accord countries who are focused on iran, arab states. Harris of course they are. Marie they made clear if iran gets proxies to be aggressive, they will take steps, as well. It is tender box and our goal should be to tell iran we will hold them responsible but to not ignite further contact that puts israel at risk. Harris you are in favor of words over action. You know who decides if they make it wider . Iran. Hezbollah has 100,000 rockets. Marie every party gets a vote and i think words matter in conflict. Harris people on the ground dont get a vote. Emily i hear what you are saying and i wish i felt more confidence in that. This president keeps saying dont, dont, be prepared, we have not seen deterrent consequence of that. I have not seen anything that gives me faith and confidence these warnings hold water. Im pretty confident our enemies are laughing all the way to the attacks. When we meld behavior with words, this president nominated jack lew to be ambassador two years after assum