Jesse hello, everybody. Im Jesse Watters along withesse judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr. , martha maccallum, and greg gutfeld. 5 00 in New York City, and this is the five. Hu Hunter Biden Bolting from the press after wrapping up a marathon day of testifying. The first son showing up on capitol hill for his sworn deposition by republican investigators, just days afterju his Pinky Promise to america that he will stop Smoking Crack to help save democracy. Hunters lawyer talking to the press and blasting republicans for daring to quiz the president s socansn on his shady business dealings. Re isit seems to me that the d toblican members wante spend more time talking about my clients addiction than they could ask any question that hadt anything to do with whatio they call as i said before, there is no evidence because there is no evidence, and today only confirmed that. But james comer and other republicans had to remind americans what this is really a. This was a great defi deposin dress. O improve several bits of our evidence we have been conducting throughout this investigation, but there are also some contradictory statements that i think need further review. So this Impeachment Inquiry will now go to the next phase, whiche will be a public hearing. Hunter biden is being defiant and also dishonest, and his testimony, some of it, is in d direct conflicirt with other witnesses. Hese didntses. Want answeree questions directly related to him to him. Jesse and lucky forth hunter, the democratic avengers were on hand to defend him. But we just witnessed over the last hour waovers i think ae deepsea fishing expedition. Xp if this Impeachment Inquy continues, then Chairman Comer and chairman jordan are working with russia. They are peddling russian lies basically the republicans have become synonymous for russians. We are talking about someone whs has an actual citizen, just a regular shmegular citizen. Republicans apparently hate parents and sons and families that talk to pho each other by e often. He was an expert on corporate governance. Hes a very smart and lucid guy who had a terrible struggle with addiction. Who jesse hes just a regulr shmegular citizen, greg. Greg that was a diverse collection of morons. They had from every group, and they were all bona fide 100 stupid. This. Is not a political exercis as much as it is a lesson in media bias. When they exact warfare on the people they hate, it is noble, it is heroic, it is patriotic. When its applied to them, then it becomes merely political. Its it is a show trial. Not im not crazy about this cot stuff, but who got the ballro rolling here . The marshaling of layers, untili agencyca, political operatives against trump. Trum hes being hunted and other republicans are finally learning how to use a rifle. Anyone trying to generate sympathy over hunter has toow remember how little sympathy they held for trumps family, who exists light years away fromsh hunters corrupt and sortedir shenanigans. They tried to ruin lives their s over nothing. By the way, this is just as deposition. You have to remember, hunter is a lawyer, so hes equipped. Eq hes at home in court as much as he is in a crack den. You know, with the media be ashi sympathetic if a trump kid had a Drug Addiction . Sk yourself theyd go after them if they werwere snorting afrin. I i hit the pingpongness of cot t i understand why this has to be done. There is concrete proof through emails that joe was using hunter biden to make it rain,wi but the media saysth theresther nothing to see here, its political. Thisst is from the mostly politically driven media inor history. Ththe e media accusing anybody a l being political is like the view calling you stupid. Jesse so not a longesse hearing, judge jeanine. I would have expected this thinn to probably go to 7 00 or 8 00. 7 they 0 rafted up around 4 00. Do you think they got enough ath this deposition . Judge jeanine i think they got as much as he wanted to give them, and thats why it wasobab probably short. The crazy part about all this,ve youve g got this whole crew of democrats, and a well represented crew, as greg says, but they are out there saying nothing happened, its just a poor guy who was drugaddicted, and the guy didnt even finish testifying. They dont even know whats going onuy d, and the bottom lis this. What did the bidens get 24 million for . Ey i what were they in the businesssi of . Stop kidding each other. This is influence peddling, thip is corruption, this is something that is proven not just by hunter biden by the way, thed fact that hes addicted to Crack Cocaine or whatever it is, thats not the issue. By the way, thats not a defense of any crime. Its not a defense to murder, grand larceny, influence peddling, or lobbying on behalf aof a foreign nation, which nobody thought to charge him with. But thats a whole other issue. Joe biden would not have gone to ukraine and leveraged A Billion Dollars of our money because he wanted to gewantt rid of a corrt prosecutor in ukraine. The guy has been dealing with d the highest level of crimeea we have seen in america for 30 years. T has he ever once said, i want to get rid of that prosecutor who is not prosecuting crime . This guy is corrupt. I will bring the power of the government to make sure the American People are represented and aree safe and secure. Not once. D se but he cant wait to get to ukraine. Why . Becaussoe his son is on the boan oft burusma, they want to sit n wall street and cant if theres a problem in ukraine. Er so he flies out there after hunter contacts him and leverages A Billion Dollars in order for them to fire the prosecutor. We know inecut the end of that e was brought in abrout the end of every deal, whether it wasg go dinner, playing golf, a phone call. It is all there, folks. Im not going to bore you. But these are liars. Joe said he never knew or discussed his sons business, busithat he was never part of te business, that he never interacted with the associates of his sons not to mention he flew over to china on air force two to make sure they connected. And hunter never lied, either. He was just addicted when he gos a gun but he didnt knowt He Ws Addictedad and therefore shoulds be responsible. Hes guilty. Jesse some of the leaks o f coming out of this deposition harold, Hunter A Sesaid he went to the Burisma Board to fight Russian Gresaggression in ukraine. Harold its good to beold back with everybody. I would see a couple of things. L a lot of this isd embarrassing. I cant figure out for the life of me what theof crime is. Bu put that aside for one moment. Av whatever they think the crime is, you actually have to produce evidence to show that someone did something. Meth the judge has a very strong theory of the case. Your theory could be correct. Thus far, i have not heard or seen any evidence to suggest any of it is true. F it the one thing that mr. Comer jesse what about the bank records, the 24 million . Harold lets assume thats right. Jesse h what was the money for . Harold can i finish . M if someone is paid 24 million, who cares if its legal . Jesse who cares if its illegal . B3 no, no, listen. Who cares as long as it is legal is what im saying. At part of what t people said about hunter is that he is unqualified. Hes a yale educated lawyer that started a business. People hire consultants to do ultathings all the time, Peoplee Ceos All The Time who get fired. We dont say they arey unqualified, that they jusdit didnt do their job right. Number one. T. Number two, if Joe Biden Wasar part ot f this, lets say he was receiving money, if you are not in government, it wouldnt matter. Jesse so you can bribe aca politicians family, you areans saying . Harold listen to me. He was nongovernment. Jesse he got a diamond when he was in the whvice president s office. Harold he was Nodding Office in 2017. Your president was there ince 2017. Listen tgiveo me. I hear you. These are facts that i think are relevant to this. They said he was defiant. Defiant is not a crime nor is it grounds for impeachment. You could all be right and you could definitely be wrong. One thing we know, he has d efcomplied. Has gone and sat with themmpli and gone with the rules. He has sat in a closeddoorse hearing. Apparently he will sit in an open door hearing and we will get a chance to see it. The only thing i have heard Chairman Comer say is the stuff about two checks and millions oi dollars. I will just sally this, and i dont think anything is wrong with it. En when President Trump left office, he decided to do w businessit with the liv golf tournament. They have used some of his golf courses i understand hes being compensated for it. Thats not something i would do, but thats not illegal. Jesse hunter is not a real businessman. He doesnt have a website, he doesnt have a real job. Hes just a conduit for bribes. Harold jessie, theres a lot of leaves you are making, and i hear you. M yoaku cannot like him jesse wewev have to leap or to martha. Harold because Youou Canno T believe hes qualified, that doesnt mean e he just make ald quick point. A contract for using a golf course is a thing, and asse comt that the company has t someone is contracted where are the contracts that were written between the Biden Corporation and what the services were going to be . And i agree with you, it is quite clear when you watch qui r that, as much as all this h stinks to high heaven, 1t suspicious activity reports, iyo dont have that. N h asnobody has that here. All these shell companies, to hide where this money was going. But what it t smacks of more thn anything anhingd i think this something the American People will have to decide cometion election time. If you become a member of congress, at the age of 28 harold i was 26 years old. Martha after that, you been employed on wall street,ou you have a number of jobs you do. Joe biden has never had that in his life. Hunter biden said himself, i had to pay for the whole family. I had to give half of everything to pop. W he madeions about ho this money are enormous, dealing with china, dealing with ukraine. Sometimes he fell flat on his face, and maybe thats becauseu he was addicted. Some of these deals fell through and never happened. E ththe American People will deci ultimately. I dont think itll comedehi doo a criminal issue. Cr i think itll come down to what people want in terms of Theirms Oleadership at the ballot boxld come november, but all of this is airing that dirty laundry come in many cases, for people to decide on their own. Judge Jeanine Jesse we will have mythink n that one. Fox news alert, the Supreme Court decided it wills take up trumps Immunity Case ar thile end of april. The decision is expected in june. This will put jack smith januarr now. Shannon bream is in d. C. With more. This is a significant delay, jesse, to let jack smith had hope we d would be march 4th. Thats clearly not happening. We are not. Sure whether the Supreme Court would get involved or not, because the d. C. Circuit, that appellatee level justle before the Supreme Court, had a very lengthy detailed decision saying the Immunity Case would not be e winner for President Trump. Trumthey gave him a big loss. They went to the Supreme Courtrt and asked for a stay. The court went beyond that. They not only stayed the case but said they were actually going to hear iting. We are told the briefing would happen the next few weeks. They will likely hear this case the week of april 22nd. Oi ntthat means, from that point oe we w wait. Normally these Big Decisions come at the end of june. This has been expedited, so it may come ahead of that. T. Until then, that lower court is on hold. Jack smith cannot proceed at alr with any of this january 6the ag case against the former president. So we will wait to see how the argument scale. Remember, was the Supreme Court makes its decision is uln this t unpauses, where the judges hadre the entire thing on pause. I woule trd imagine for a trumpm will argue on that point, if he loses on the immediate issue, they need several weeks ored s f couple of months before they ca begin to thinkbe about starting the case, which throws it probably to late summer, early fall, and all of this of course is right in the middle of the election. Jesse . F he doeshehannon, i get a disk favorable ruling by the Supreme Court at the endt at of june, and he does get a dela, is that really conceivable that they would have a January 6th Federal Trial after the second debate . Cond i mean, it is possible. Of course theres always so much that you do, andof they have ben arguing there are millions of pages of discovery, what is the rush, we have all this time, lets go through this as wehr would anouy other federal trial. Special counsel has argued all along, its a matter of national importance. We think that people should know whether theres going to be a Conviction I Hen Thisth case before this mans name appears on the ballot if hena indeed is the g. O. P. Nominee as it looks like he will be. Be but even if we get this decision the last wee tk of june, if ita biggie we get at the end of then term, again, i think the trumpre team will argue we have Pretrial Motions, discovery that puts us through july, august, maybe september before we even are ready to arguebefo this case. S early fall is very conceivable for this. Jesse he couldse also get Ag Favorable Ruling B by the high court. Judge jeanine . Judge jeanine we are beginning fromg square one, assuming the Supreme Court says there is no immunity here in the trial goes forward. There have been no pretrial at all in the d. C. Case . There have been things going on, theydi spend discovery. If you remember, a couple of months ago, Thgovee Governmentlt actually tried to produce some entsof the documents to the trup team while this was supposed to be pause paied normally theyd want those documents but they said no, this whole thing is on pause, you cant be giving documents and we cant do any oc the normal pretrial stuff. So all of that, as you know andh can very well explainedex everyone, thatpl takes time. Once you have a decision from the Supreme Court, if this case go back, you have all that Pretrial Motion since i could really slow things down. Judge jeanine do you attribute anything to the Supreme Court agreeing to take this on an expedited basis . Th they made clear to say in this order without expressing a view on the merits. So they are saying, we are not taking any position, theres no Vote Breakdown in here, so we k dont know how anybody voted or whatno happened here. The former president had asked for a stay to put this on hold foldr a bit. That would have taken five votes. What they did was say we basically converted this stay into that means you formerly to mike formally requested an appeal. That only takes four votes. So now wnoe are left to play parlor games, guessing who voted how, because theres no breakdown in this order. Jesse shannon, thank you so much. Greg im confused. Could somebody remind me what were talking about command what is he being charged with again . Jesse whether or not you can be charged as a president , for actions you took greg i know, i want to know what hes being charged with. Judge jeanine not insurrection. That we know. Martha obstruction of justice. Greg im trying to figure out what i t is, what started this whole thing. Judge jeanine the underlying crime i s obstruction. Martha wouldnt this als applied to the documents case, as well . Judge jeanine it judge jeanine it does. Eani judge jeanine you thinkt does . Harold the Former T Presidenhat said he could not be charged with anything because of actions he took as president. Nsso if jack smith it is theo documents and d judge jeanine they are both federal cases. The question is whether or not argue thatont would after he is president separates it from having immunity from the time he was president. Ity. Martha so they couldco divide those things in their decision. Judge jeanine they might. Harold heres the issue, and also. I dont disagree with Th Weul Atspeculation of what we are talking about here, and greg raises a Central Point that we should get the answer to hear. I think there are probably twooh cases. This was the core of President Trumps charge or beim that he should not charged at all. Judge jeanine defense. Harold this is the core of his predefense strategy, to the judges point. If the Supreme Court says the president does have immunity, which he has asserted he hasha unconventional immunity, all of this will go wil away. Not only will it clear the way folyr no trial, we would have no trial, period. Ifwi he loses on this before the court, this opens the door, i believe, for a quicker trial. One of the things i wanted to ask shannon i dont know the answer to this is how many Pretrial Motions.