Mark Hello America i am market trend two and this is life, Liberty Levin sunday. Thank you for being here. When i was growing up it wasnt that long ago but long enough, i really look forward to television on saturdays and sundays. Particularly in the evening. I was glued to the screen watching the firing line with the great bill buckley. Even pbs from time to time particularly when they ran a series of free to choose based on milton freedmans book. We are introduced to great men so many others ronald reagan. I miss that today, i really do. Tv has changed a lot. We have and that is okay. I tried to do this program a little differently, slow things down, think about it, dig a little more deeply even go into the great philosophers and writers and so forth. We have two great guest this evening with Victor Davis Hanson and Newt Gingrich. I will be a great show not because of me but because of them. But i do want to dig deeply. When you look at what has happened to our Justice System and the law, how it is being used against President Trump has been distorted at every level local, state, federal, civil. You look at how the media are supportive. You look at mobs and factions of citizens who think this is fantastic, you look at the oval office and joe biden its behind the scenes and out front now encouraging the sort of thing trying to take trump off of ballots it. Trying to rush the appellate process. Destroying due process and the attorneyclient privilege is smells to me like the french revolution. Have a phony time to get under the guillotine as fast as you can. Because we have a country to destroy what we know what is best. We want one party rule we are going to get there by Hook Or By Crook. A book thats one of Ronald Reagans favorite certainly one of mine. Its called The Law Sport in 1801 and born 1850 a young man he worked to the French Legislature saw his country destroying itself moving towards socialism and he said which means it will eventually move towards communism. Individual liberty, private Property Rights the whole rule of law is being destroyed he said right in front of our eyes. That is exactly was taking place in this country today, exactly. The horrendous state of the Union Address the constant coverage of these outrageous rogue prosecutors, all democrats. The Rogue Democrat judges appointed by obama and biden. One after the others some elected locally in our inner cities bite democrats all aimed at taking out a man who disagrees with them. Im in to read a little bit and encourage you to pursue it further on your own its called the law. Unfortunately law by no mean combines itself to proper function. When it has exceeded its proper functions is not done so merely an inconsequential bull and debatable manners. The law has gone further than this. Direct opposition to its own purpose these are profound words. The law has been used to destroy its own objective it is been applied to annihilating the justice it was supposed to maintain. To limiting and destroying rights which its real purpose was to respect it. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish without risk to exploit the person, liberty and property of others. Its converted plunder into a rights in order to protect plunder and it is converted lawful defense into a crime in order to punish lawful defense. How was this perversion of the law been accomplished and what has been the results . He was looking at his country the influence that marx was having on his country and throughout europe. He said theres a tendency thats common among people when they can to live and prosper at others is no rash accusation nor does it come from a gloomy non charitable spirit. Bear witness to the incessant wars the mass migration, religious persecution, universal slavery, dishonesty commerce and slavery. This fatal this lie has the nature of man. And the primitive, universal and suppressible instinct that compels them to satisfy his desires with the least possible pain. Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are the victims. That is what plunder is organizing for economic plunder when you plunder the liberty of somebody. Plunder in its fullest sense it. That is been plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law. All the plundered classes try to somehow enter. Peaceful or revolutionary means into making the law. It starts with a few but then everybody wants a piece of the action. Everybody wants a piece of the pie according to their degree of enlightenment the plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes. They attempted to obtain a political power. Either they make shoes stop lawful plunder or share in it. Stop it or share in it. Woe to the nation when the latter purpose prevails when they in turn sees a power to make the law basically saying that everybody is in on it. Which destroys the law, justice, liberty and the civil society. Until that happens the few practice lawful plunder among the many. The right to participate in the making of laws limited to a few persons. But then participation of the law becomes universal this is why Thomas Jefferson said you can have tierney in many forms including tyranny of the legislature. If they do not comply with their oath and follow the constitution is placed on them they are tyrannical just because you vote for them does not mean they are not. And then i men seek to balance e conflicting interests but universal plunder is what i am describing. Instead of rooting out injustices they make the injustices a general. It says the plundered classes gain a political power they have a system of reprisals against other classes exactly whats going on for its trump and his supporters right now. They do not abolish legal plunder. I said they emulate their evil predecessors by participating in the legal plunder. Even though it is against their own interests. Do you understand . In america when you destroy your constitution when you destroy the bill of rights when you destroy due process the whole purpose of a trial when you eliminate Attorney Client privilege and wh when you targea single man in order to destroy him by Hook Or By Crook with 91 Felony Charges from the ku klux klan act to federal elections, to the enron obstruction. Two documents, do you understand that you destroyed the very foundation of the Law And Justice that is supposed to protect you . Do you think you perpetrators are going to be unaffected by this . That is what he is saying. Its impossible to introduce into Society A Greater Change in greater evil than this. The conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder in the first place and erases from everyones conscience the distinction between justice and law. Again think about what they doing to trump. No society can exist and le andt the laws are expected to a certain degree. This safest way to make laws respected is to make them respectable. When th law and morality contrat each other this citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law which is what is happening in this country. The two evils are of equal consequence. And it would be difficult for a person to choose between them. To maintain justice this is so much the case in the minds of the people, Law And Justice are one of the same thing. There is in all of us a strong disposition to believe anything lawful is also legitimate. This belief is so widespread and mamany persons have erroneously held things are just because the law makes them so. Thats in order to make plunder appear just, plunder again beyond the property of plundering of the law the plundering of the Justice System. That is in order to make plunder appear justice and sacred to many consciousness. It is only necessary for the law to decree and sanction it. And you hear it today. You are not above the law. Wait a minute. The weight you are using it, rewriting it, changing it, n knw it is just because it is the l law. It is just because the government is using it and it is just because the prosecutors are bringing and it is just because the judges are supporting. Its just because were going to have a trial, we are going have a jury. You say no its not it is plunder. You are addressing it up. There is justice if you suggest a doubt as to morality of these institutions, its boldly said you are a dangerous innovator. Eight utopian a theorist a subversive. You would shatter upon which society rests hence trump as hitler hes going to be dictator. Joined by people in prison it is trump comic trump, trump. This man is a genius he saw was going on in france. Right now and had states of america thus he says there exists a law that Sanctions Slavery or monopoly or oppression or robbery in any form whatsoever it should not be mention how can it be mentioned without damaging the respect which it inspires now. Still boozer morality in economy must be taught for the Point Of View of the law this perverse law. From the supposition that must be a just law merely because it is a law. This is profoundly important. To help explain what is taking place in this nation. People are being told whats been done to donald trump is just. It is not. It is the Criminalization Of Politics by the perversion of the law. You dont understand we have heard it from leftists all over. We have heard i from people here who are liberal its been charged 91 times and you are telling me hes not convicted of something . He answers this. This is a moral. This is perverse. This is the destruction of your lawful society. And of course its going to devour all of us. No longer the people that make the law no longer the people who make the law and execute the lot just. No longer are the consequences of the law it just. This could apply to what would come later with the soviet union, communist china, communist cuba to islamist, iran and on and on and on. The problem is its applying to our country. Just step back and think about it. Are we really willing to accept a Democratic Administration in the democrat prosecutor and democrat judges imprisoning the former president of the United States . Perhaps imprisoning him before the election . Is that wit what this has come . This is the definition of the Democrat Party. Lawless, dictatorial, its a oneparty state this is the undoing of the american system. Now you know why i used to like the older shows. And the hosts and how they went about explaining things. And how they would talk about things like the law i will be right back. Heres to Getting Better with age. Heres to beating these two every thursday. Help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need. Without the stuff you dont. So, heres to now. Boost. Oh what a good time we will have you. Can make it happen. Try Dietary Supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. [street noise] [car door shuts] [paparazzi taking pictures] introducing, neds plaque psoriasis. Ned, ned, who are you wearing . He thinks his flaky red patches are all people see otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. Ned . Otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. Doctors have been prescribing otezla for nearly a decade. 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Lexi only becomes animated and angry when hes talking must own domestic opposition, his fellow americans. In other words he does not to that level of slander alive. He has a Deep Loathing for half the country because he mischaracterizes them almost every issue he brought up whether it was the deficit, or crime, or the border what he said was not true and he knew what he said was not true but he felt that he was animated enough and angry enough that media and his supporters would think at least their bad scenes and at first when he attacked a Supreme Supreme Court justices the chambers of congress. Or when h talked about people nt paying their fair share of taxes on its own son is been charged with tax evasion and avoidance and he just got a check that said Loan Repayment that was an obvious mechanism to dodge federal taxes. So i thought it was a disaster myself. Hope its not a precedent to use these occasions to attack, smear cap the country. Mark Victor Davis Hanson wasnt disappointed when the socalled State Of The Union and the constitution were present as toa Tell Congress from his perspective in that branch the status of the country . Not to go up there and rant and rave and use it as a massive free inkind contribution by the networks and others she work a Political Campaign he seems to abuse and trample in all tradition isnt that what he did . Yes i thought if he is going to talk about the deficit who would say my fellow americans us is gone over many generations many administrations us come together and find a way to solve this every hundred days we owe a trillion dollars but he did not do any of that. He did not try to have a consensus on the border. He did not have any consensus on crime. He is in denial. And essentially is telling the American People i undid everything my predecessor that has resulted it record the popularity about me the president and my policies in general. Theyrtherefrom going to blame e people for the predicament i am in the predicate to show to my base i can scream and yell and should not be removed at the convention that was the vehicle he used it to convey that. Ancient history athens and rome and you know better than anybody else the republics dont survive forever you know better than most people that most of the History Of The World is not republican paired mo. Most of the History Of The World is of empire. It is dictators of one form of were in another. Genocidal maniacs and so forth. When you have no guarantee it will survive in perpetuity. As a matter fact, none do. Do you see the undoing of this country when you look at athens and rome we are kind of repeating a lot of what happened there . Yes, i do i think the last century the Roman Republic and the common denominator is there is no symmetry in the law people use the loft to go after political opponents on the expectation no one would ever do that to them or if they did do that it would be a downward spiral. What we saw with the circus in georgia, what we saw with the horrendous settlement we saw loe and james are saying, all of it all of it we do not have a symmetry of fairness of the application of the laws. I think Everybody Knows it donald trump and not run for president or fee be that would not a bit a man of wealth he would not of been targeted if you are a conservative or a celebrity especially businessperson in new york you better donate generously to the james or the bragg or the eric Adams Campaign campaigner you e targeted. That is not america but has precedent in history and its beyond a republic we have no confidence in the law. A lot of people of no confidence in the fair application of laws because of this administration. Mark isnt that why the Democrat Party was a change of Voting System and is Self Righteously proclaims they want more people to vote . So they never lose again isnt thats what going on here . The biggest Revolution We Missweakness was under the prett of covid we went from 70 on average voting on election day to 70 not voting to a mail in valid or absentee ballot. Yet the Rejection Rate of fraudulent ballots died by magnitude under 3. 4 from 45 in the states. I think they understood what happened and thats an opportunity. You sit in the audience on the lamb of colorado stood up. He cited your book, and he said things democrats dare not say today or republica a republicany come under a horrendous attack. Which is if you want to destroy america and i will cut to the chase and do exactly what were doing on the border right now that its how you destroy america. You remember that and what he think about that . Yes, i do. Governor a lamb i remember old fashion census democrat and fought his own party even bill clinton and his white and 90 to 96 of the Democratic Convention sounded pretty much like donald trump. At least it fel