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Township, pennsylvania with police issuing a shelter in place order as they actively shoot or excuse me, actively search for that shooter. Im jacqui heinrich, welcome to Fox News Live. Griff hey, jacqui, im griff jenkins. Congressman fitzpatrick tweeting this, theres an active shooter an i alert in falls township. Were monitoring two sections of falls township. Im in such with Law Enforcement as they pursue the suspect. More information to follow. Thats exactly what were trying to bring to you. Lauren green is live with the very latest in this breaking story. Hey, lauren. Hey, griff. You know, this is still an active situation and the residents in the area in falls township, pennsylvania are told to shelter in place, the shooter is believed to be armed and dangerous. Falls Township Police are searching for 26yearold andre gordon who is driving a stolen vehicle. It started around 8 52 this morning eastern time and police say that gordon shot and killed two in the block of Viewpoint Lane in Levitt Township and they say that he shot another person at another location before fleeing the scene. A few minutes later, gordon hijacked the car at gun point at a dollar store in bristol pike. Hes driving a honda cvv, kfr1534. And they believe hes believed to be homeless with ties to trenton, new jersey, but also say he knew all the victims except victim of the carjacking. Gordon is described as 6 foot 1 with a thin build and wearing a dark Hooded Sweatshirt and is believed to be in possession of an Assault Rifle that was used in the shooting. Anyone with information is being called to call 911, griff. Griff all right, lauren, bring us more details as you get them, thank you very much. Jacqui here to break this down for us, paul morrow, the former n. Y. P. D. Inspector and fox news contributor. Paul, this all transpired pretty close to a parade route where a st. Patricks celebration was about to happen. It looks like theres no nexxis to the parade or mass casualty incident. It sounds like the shooter knew the people involved. What will police be doing now to figure out the next moves . The good news hes fully identified and police can contextualize him. And we all leave a digital footprint and theyll be trying to apprehend as quickly as possible. Among the great Force Multipliers for Police Exactly what you and griff are doing, which is getting the word out. Its really important that hes in the wind and we dont know where he is, if hes even in the same car, that the public become hyper aware. And the risk is hes p in contact with somebody else. If you see something, say something, even if youre not sure is really one of the things theyre going to depend upon as this moves forward. Jacqui griff, do you want to jump in. Griff paul, i want to ask you, with the phones and the digital tracks that he may be putting down right now, how critical is that and what might they learn when theyve got somebody who is obviously in the wind . Hyper critical. Now, and a nuance here is that its a saturday afternoon. And people lose sight of the fact that sometimes you dont have everybody in on a weekend and even here at n. Y. P. D. And i had several hundred people working for me just using my own example, i would be calling people and saying, get in here forth with, we have to do a lot of stuff quickly and you can do stuff from home and you would be again, looking to Cont Contextualize his life and what his habits are and try to track him realtime. There are cameras you can access and obviously, the car is a very important data point at this point. People hes called in the past if his phone is currently live. These are things to do realtime in an Emergency Setting and you can get a lot of information quickly, but youve got to round the troops up and then theres another nuance here, you need good management. This, one of those things, okay, the stuff hits the fan. Everybody is on deck,weve got to get moving. Make sure this things dont slip through the cracks. They got the information out qui quickly. And moving everything forward in a coherent way is important. How hard is it to local someone, paul when youre dealing with a suspect who may be homeless . Tough, very tough. Yeah, jackie, you put your finger on it. As a homeless person, undomiciled, his touch points as far as Law Enforcement are going to be thinner. If you have someone who is sleeping under bridges or something, its harder to locate you. Theres homeless and theres homeless. Some homeless avail themselves, for lack of a better term, high functioning enough their touch points are the social services. And sometimes looking for a homeless person, there are habits they have. They may go to ngos, religious institutions, three hots and a cot. And if you know that, to get that to persons life style and talk to people, i know where he tends to hang out or hes got a girlfriend over here, et cetera. It depends on homeless or homeless with a capital h, or transient might be a better world. Griff youre looking at the Photo Courtesy of our fox philadelphia, affiliate and on the left side, andre gordon the 26yearold suspect in in shooting on the loose and paul, as you sort of analyze the task at hand, its obviously paramount to bring this gentleman you see on our screen here, andre gordon, into custody, but also, with someone on the run youve got it devote a lot of your attention to protecting the public. How do you balance those . So, thats really the call and, griff, youre right on target because right now your most important thing is the preservation of life. You already know that hes capable of killing and that hes armed so you really want to ring the bell. Ive spoken in a general way you want to get your resources rolling. One of the things youre going to do is make sure that youre contacting all other agencies as youre putting this out publicly, leveraging the media, youre also going to make sure theres a mention of trenton, he has contacts that. Theyre way up on this. The Jersey State Police and pennsylvania someplace and im sure new york and even n. Y. P. D. Given the headsup. Look, if this guy has any touch in your area, by now, hopefully they know that, theyll see, hey, looks like he has a brother that is in brooklyn. N. Y. P. D. Has to be alerted. This comes down to management. You have an Incident Commander and executive who is hurting all of those, and making sure that this person knows, that person knows, you talk to this chief, that chief, getting feedback and get it pushed out to all ships at sea. You want to make sure if he turns up some place that he could be grabbed, they know about it. You dont get that out he goes to a place he could have gotten and miss him. Youll have regrets. This is where management and organization matters. Everybody wants to catch him and do the right thing. Jacqui paul, just as weve been talking, an update reported from our fox affiliate in philadelphia, theyre saying that the vehicle that andre gordon stole, that 2016 honda crv with the License Plate Kfr1534 thats since been located unoccupied in trenton, new jersey. So, that would mean that andre gordon left the state of pennsylvania and is somewhere else, abandoned the vehicle that he stole. How much more difficult is the search now for Law Enforcement where they dont have an idea of how he might be travelling at this point . Well, good news and bad news with that. First of all, it verifies the fact that he was going to trenton so your initial intel is crop rcorroborated. The question, is he in another vehicle or on foot . Obviously hes on the loose and youre going to concentrate more on trenton and look very hard now in that area of any calls, 911 calls that came in, could look like a stolen car or a carjacking to see if hes jumped into that different vehicle and Home Invasion calls and anything like that to indicate that hes taken further action to try to hide his whereabouts and committed another crime. The best Case Scenario here would be that hes someplace known to them and maybe get them without any further bloodshed including his own. Maybe hes going to end up in a hostage situation, youve got to talk him out and Start Playing out the potential scenarios. You may not have a lot of time to activate the resources you need. So sounds like trenton p. D. Is going to take the lead on this, im sure new Jersey State Police, which is an excellent agency with a lot of resources im sure theyre highly raised up and yet, looking at everything they can to try to locate him and preparing for every eventuallity, you dont know how this is going to go. Quickly before we run out of time here, paul, i want to get your you know, n. Y. P. D. Hat on. The notion that you sort of cast a widespread and then begin to close the perimeter, is that possible to do in a situation like this now that weve seen, obviously, the killing began in falls township, now weve gotten to trenton, new jersey . Yeah, you know, one of the things you do want to be sort of mindful of is confirmation bias. Everybody wants to do the right thing and wants to help and everybody will come running in to support the case and what happens is, you develop for lack of a better term, rumor and intelligence. And its received wisdom that hes in trenton and then you find out hes in pa sayic and looking in the wrong place and weve m in some cases, escaped prisoner situations, he couldnt have gotten more than 10 miles on foot. And hes 30 miles. If you go too narrow hes clearly in trenton. You could miss the fact, a, he got on a bicycle, on a train. And you want to narrow your focus and data points, keep in mind, he could be anywhere and this comes out to management and communications. Everybody has to be on the ground. And people away from st. Patricks Day Festivities and working when they werent going to be. Thats the job and you took it. And everybody has to be cognizant of the fact youve got a dangerous man on the loose. Griff joining us on the phone with an update, paul, thank you. Please call back if you get any information on this case. I will do. Thank you both. Griff if youre just joining us, youre looking live there at that picture we had, but let me shift gears a little bit and go to some other news and thats nathan wade. Resigning from former president trumps Election Interference case after a judge ruled that d. A. Fani willis could remain on the case if he left, following the discovery of their personal relationship. This comes as trumps new york Hush Money Case is delayed for another month. Madeline rivera is live with the latest on this. Good afternoon, griff. From a technical standpoint this was a win for d. A. Fani willis. Nathan wade says hes stepping down in the interest of democracy and to move this case forward as quickly as possible. This should allow willis to continue her prosecution against former president trump, but her reputation is in question. Judge scott mcafee is slamming her for lapse of judgment pursuing a relationship with wade. Details of their personal life has been laid out in public and it could affect a jury and how the Case Advances and shes facing several investigations including one in georgia where a republicanled state senate is looking into alleged misconduct on her part. The problem with this is that it just undermines the publics confidence in the fairness and the impartiality of our Criminal Justice system. Jacqui trump can submit a certificate of immediate review and take it all the way to the Georgia Court of appeals. That would, of course, further delay the legal proceedings. This comes as the Hush Money Case in manhattan has been delayed as well. Its been pushed back a month after federal prosecutors provided more than 100,000 pages of records that trumps team says it needs time to comb through. They wanted 90 days or dismiss the case entirely. A Discovery Hearing is scheduled for the week of march 25th to talk about the new materials, griff. A lot of Trial Information to keep up with. Maddie rivera in washington d. C. For us, thank you. Thanks, griff. Jacqui for more lets bring in our legal panel. Former prosecutor Kelly Stimpson and Accountability Center elizabeth, thank you for being here and appreciate your time. A lot of interesting developments on this case that we all washed very closely. You know, i want to start with the question of does the judges order, ill ask you, elizabeth, to this answer this. Does this set up trump to ask for appeal or try to get out of it somehow . I think there was a little bit of something for everyone in this order from judge mcafee, that certainly trumps allies lost in the sense they were seeking to have the indictments dismissed because of this alleged Conflict Of Interest or you know, at least to have fani willis disqualified from the case. That didnt happen. Obviously, the Special Prosecutor, nathan wade did resign from the case and certainly, there was some Sca Scathing Criticism of d. A. Willis that im sure that trump and his allies will continue to use as the case goes forward and certainly in the court of Public Opinion. Other than a delay im not sure that its in their interest to appeal this because of the things they got out of this. I think at this point both sides will make their legal arguments to the Decision Makers of the everyday jury, the jury of Everyday Americans will ultimately decide this case. I want to play with you what former president said, and give your take on it. The local d. A. Stuff and fani willis, she spent with wade, i call my fani wade, she spent with wade, her lover, boyfriend, days in the white house and in the Justice Department talking about my case. Now, that case is imploding. She should never be allowed anywhere near a case in my opinion. Some of the charges have been thrown out. Well, yeah, 10 charges have been thrown out. A lot of them have been thrown out. Its a fake case. Jacqui is he able to make that argument in a court of Public Opinion thats more successful now . He certainly will do what he wants to do, weve seen that over the years, but ultimately this case is going to be tried, to elizabeths point, in front of a judge or jury in atlanta. In foik. But i agree with my colleague, look, theres a little bit of something for everybody in this decision, but the findings of facts and conclusions of law were methodically done. In this 23page, the judge looked at Appearance Aa of impropriety and there are convictions on any of these cases that will be issue number one on appeal and i could see an Appeals Court sending it back for retrial. So i think that some d. A. s would actually despite their ego, recuse themselves, but i dont think shell do that. Jacqui should she do that . Some say, look, the public has seen you, basically on trial for all intents and purposes and its been certainly distraction from the case that she was trying to make. Should she, for the integrity of the case and for, you know, Public Perception stepped away . I definitely agree with you that its a distraction. Its important to remember that she is not the endall and beall of the days. We started this with a grand jury indictment. The grand jury is a jury of ones peers. Everyday americans, who came up with the indictment that donald trump is now being prosecuted for. And d. A. Willis will probably not be the one who mr. Not be the one who will be making the day in, day out arguments in the case. And there are people on the team not just d. A. Willis, i think if she were to recuse herself and her whole office that would substantially delay the case in a way that isnt in the interest of justice and americans who want this settled before the election. So, i think when you realize that its a much bigger than d. A. Willis, this is really about a judge, a jury and a process, now, then i think that really becomes less important. We had this, now, very meticulous decision by judge mcafee that says there wasnt an actual Conflict Of Interest, but there was an appearance of Conflict Of Interest and thats why Special Prosecutor wade had to resign. Its a matter of Going Forward at this point. Jacqui we have more questions and were out of time. The biggest one, the likelihood of seeing a trial before the trump election, and not only on this one, but several. Griff. Griff jacqui, great conversation. And we have much more ahead as Fox News Live continues next. I brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. Ugh. Here, ill take that. Woo hoo ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. And a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. Choice hotels is a family of brands that helps you get the most for your money, so you can be any traveler you want to be. You can be a free, Hot Breakfast Hero at a comfort hotel. 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