Judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr. , dana perino, and tyrus. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is the five. Day 6 of the salem trump trials. It all started with the judge hearing the prosecutions request for trump to be held in Contempt Of Court for allegedly violating his gag order ten times. Aka, muzzling the leading president ial candidate in the think of an election. D. A. Alvin braggs team mustve gotten cold feet. Today they said they dont want to lock up trump for speaking his mind, they just want to slap him with hefty fines. The judge hasnt made up his mind yet on what he is going to do. Then to the main show. Exnational enquirer publisher david pecker was back on the stand. The prosecution hoping to convince the jury that trump tried to hide damaging stories ahead of the 2016 election. Pecker testified that he has been catching and telling stories for a long time, which is perfectly legal, last time we checked, and pecker began doing it for trump starting in 2015. He also testified under oath that trump was popular with the ladies. Mr. Trump was well known as the most eligible bachelor and dated the most beautiful women. Later on, trump carrying his Trademark Stack of articles, railing against the gag order. In the ice chamber they are keeping him locked up in. Which, to me, is totally unconstitutional and i am not allowed to talk but people are allowed to talk about me. Id love to talk to you people. Id like to say everything that is on my mind, but i am restricted because i have a gag order. This trial is all biden. This is all biden in case anybody is any question. And they are keeping me in a courtroom that is freezing, by the way. In a courtroom all day long. While he is out there probably an advantage because he cannot campaign. Nobody knows what he is doing. He cant put two sentences together. Jesse the media trying to spin this any way can. This is donald trump goading the judge to do this and i think the reason is he would much rather have all of us talk about his being jailed than to talk about the evidence at the trial. Judge merchans calm. Hes methodical. He makes decisions quickly. Hes decisive. He said this case is all biden. There is precisely zero evidence that President Biden had anything to do with bringing, orchestrating, running this case. Is there any greater irony then complaining about a gag order and saying it restricts you from speaking while you are speaking to cameras and the media who is in the hallway . Jesse okay, the gag order controversy, dana. Hes going to take his time, the judge. Hes going to ponder it and then make up his mind. Dana none of this makes sense. I thought the wall street Journal Editorial Board had a really good point. They said what are you protecting Michael Cohen from . He has a very public and out there. It is not a juror number 2, i dont think i want any of this attention on me, very private person. Michael cohen is not a private person and he is willing to get out there and mix it up with everyone so i am not exactly sure who the judge even thinks this gag order is protecting. Now if it is jurors, find, but it hasnt been. The star witness is david is Michael Cohen, so he gets to go on tv and talk about donald trump, and donald trump can talk about him, and they are saying, we dont necessarily want you to go to jail because we know that would look terrible for us, we just want you to have to pay a lot more money. As if that was a good solution. You know the phrase too good to check . When you want a story so badly, you want it to be true, and you are afraid to have your producers factcheck it because then it might turn out not to be the story that you want to. Jesse familiar with that. [laughter] tyrus never heard of it, sounds made up. Dana i was reading an oped in the New York Times from a legal scholar from boston and he said this is terrible. He said i always had a hunch it was a terrible case but after Opening Statements, this is awful. Im not a lawyer, we have lawyers here, the politics come i think what President Trump did this morning, supersmart. Before he went in the courtroom, he did address the cameras but did not talk about the case, he talked about two things that are really important for him today in order to get on the record. One was the primary in pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the state that biden must win in order to get to 270 in the electoral college. President trump talked about that and he talked about Dave Mccormick in a very favorable way, the Republican Senatorial candidate who will be the presumptive nominee tomorrow. After tonights voting. So that was one thing. The other thing he did that was a stark contrast from President Biden was he made a very strong statement about antisemitism on college campuses. He is able, in the limited way that he can, in the time that he has, to get everybodys attention and say these are the two things that are on my mind this morning, and ill excuse me while i had to go sit in the meat locker for six hours. Jesse they are freezing him to death. Tyrus yes, they are, which is ridiculous. On The Gutfeld Show as a guest. Jesse ive been there. Tyrus the testimony, mr. President , forget the gag order. We talked about this. Keep this in the street. People need to know what is going on. Is a foregone conclusion according to your legal team and yourself so just go to town. I normally would never say this is the time for the 3 00 a. M. Tweet. This is the time. This is the time to do all of the things people didnt want talk, talk. The way they are letting it outcome i do not pass the bar but we can see when someone is laying it out to play it out. Michael cohen is being shown as a yes man, and the way they are showing is trump oversaw everything. He was handson. Peckers weird saying that peckers testimony saying how he was so on top of everything, so bruegel, but there is another thing and maybe they are paying attention, cohen reminds me of that guy who you let on the squad, he has one lane. He has one job. Its the dirt work but he wants to be in front of the camera so he was doing a lot of things to try to make him seem like you had a bigger role in the Trump Machine then he really did. Which would lead to him being overzealous, doing things without talking to the president , heidi because he is trying to show him he belongs. Jesse, you have had some way guys try to get next to the Jesse Watters machine, you know exactly what im talking about. Jesse you sniff them out and kick them out. Tyrus thats the play. They will try to say trump oversaw everything. I think we know from other stuff Michael Cohen was doing a lot things behind the president s back. Jesse it was funny, harold, he said, biden is on the Campaign Trail and i am stuck here. That might be a good thing because the man cant campaign. Harold sniff them out and then you kick them out, i love that. I hope you had a good weekend. Its good to be back around the table. Id say a couple of things. I agree with dana and you, i thought and what tyrus was saying about the start of the day. He needs to stay on the campaign before he goes in the courtroom, to draw that contrast, that juxtaposition we talked about last week, when i talked about his ability to be a good political athlete. Two, hes innocent until Proven Guilty and mr. Peckers comments, i will get to that in one second, i think are i am beginning to understand better what mr. Bragg in his office is trying to do here, we learned, the judge will comment on this in a few minutes, a minute or two, the second charge not outlined in the body of the indictment became clear today from the prosecutor was doing a direct examination against mr. Pecker. I think there is going to be a belief from a legal standpoint i agree, legally the things they are talking about that mr. Trump did, whether it is hush money or these relationships, none of that is illegal. What they are getting at and what i will be interested in seeing if they can make the case, they are not saying that was legal. What they are saying is there was a criminal conspiracy to influence the election through perhaps inkind donation at other things. Mr. Pecker suggested no one is in the Courtroom Reporting what we are getting that they were affirmatively Planting Stories against some of the other opponents that mr. Trump faced in 2016, mr. Rubio and mr. Cruz and others. The question will be legally does not constitute jesse you are saying democrat campaigns dont coordinate with the media to plant stories . Harold if you listen, i am saying that. Just listen to me once i can. Mr. Pecker is openly saying, he is laying out a narrative saying they were together, they talked about these things, mr. Trump none of that was illegal he was popular with women in these stories, they were paying for journalism at all that kind of stuff thats fine. The question becomes, if you are out peddling stories that you know are not true about other candidates, cannot be perceived as judge jeanine who said that . Harold thats what they said today, judge. These are just a fact. You can disagree with the analysis judge jeanine who said that today . Harold the prosecutor. Thats what im saying. This is the part of the indictment that was not talked about. And this is the question. They are going to be good days and bad days in court beer im not saying this can be proven but now i understand the case because what you said, jesse, and many have said over the last several days, we have all set on this set, that the federal prosecutors decided not to pursue some of this hush money stuff. I got that, that seems right. The question is, does this other stuff, does this constitute a crime . Im not saying it does, judge, but this is the issue they are pushing in this case and we will see what happens. I hope they lift the gag order. I think its unfair to have a gag order on him. Judge jeanine lawyer, you are a lawyer. You know as well as anyone else that you cant possibly pick a jury or make an Opening Statement if you dont know what the crime is. And if you are saying at this table today, we found out what that crime is, it was not included in a bill of particulars harold we reported it on fox. Judge jeanine that legally you have to agree with me we have a problem. Look, i want to get to the bottom line in this case. The bottom line in this trump case is whether or not donald trump had the intent that the money that was paid was being used to affect the election. And i believe that the proof so far has proved just the opposite pier number one, an nda is not illegal. Businessmen do it all the time. Catch and kill, in terms of stories, is not illegal, and in fact, david pecker testified today that it was something that he and donald had done frequently. What does that tell you, and why is that important . What it tells you is that they have engaged in this in the past, not because donald trump was running for president , but because donald trump had a family. He had a business. He had children. You put the trump name on a building, and then it would go all the way up in terms of the evaluation of the building. So this is not money that was a campaign contribution. It was his own money, for starters, but it is money that is used to protect the trump name. And unless you can prove to the opposite Beyond A Reasonable Doubt the 12 people, stop talking, all right, and a gag order is unconstitutional. You cannot gag one party, especially a defendant, who is running for president on a sham case, where the misdemeanors are expired and the local d. A. Is putting on the jacket of the federal prosecutor saying im going to save us from the Statute Of Limitations by Making Believe im a federal prosecutor. You cannot gag that person and allow Michael Cohen, stormy daniels, and whole lot of them to say donald trump is no good, he is a liar. I mean, it just is unfair. And it shows how inappropriate judge merchan is, as it relates to Donald Trumps and his ri rights. If this court wants people to believe that there is fairness in this trial, that what the court has to do, you either gag everybody or you dont gag any one. And the last point i want to make is the feds, for decades, have not allowed anyone to identify Anyone Running for office in the six months before campaign, to be identified as a target, as a defendant come or bring charges. That is a period of time where the feds zip it up. They are not only not zipping it up, they are trying this man on an unfair, expired misdemeanor that is totally legitimate based upon everything we have heard. Harold i agree with you on the gag order, but there is a second i know you dont agree with me but you she just looked back out what we have been reporting to be on fox about what i was saying. Be five okay, i will. Jesse good to have you back around the table. Harold glad to be back. Judge jeanine what about me . Tyrus you are never gone. Your presence is never missed. Jesse have a lozenge. Coming out, joe biden thinks there is very fine people on both sides when it comes to prohamas freaks intimidating jews on campus. 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Whats going on at the college level, the colleges, columbia, nyu, and others, is a disgrace. And it is really on biden. He has the wrong signal, the wrong tone. He is the worst president in the history of our country but it all starts with joe biden, the signals he puts out are so bad. He is not for israel, that is for sure. Dana what you think of the contrast in the statements from the president on the former president . Jesse you made a great point in a that he needs to stay on the news cycle and not complain about the court cases. And that was a great point he made. Remember the fine people drama . That was like a year or two long. And it was a hoax. Said there was fine people on both sides after he said that there was horrible people on both sides, too. Joe biden is looking at israel, who is just defending itself. Hamas came in impair suits and slit womens throats and then raped them. If you are now in the press and you are saying these protests are just a bunch of Salsa Dancing and sushi eating, eating and dancing, a jewish kid got his eyeball gouged by a palestinian flagpole. They are chanting Death To America, they are chanting i am hamas. It is not a peaceful protest here. Joe biden has to just come out and say i condemn what i am seeing on these campuses. If the violent. Its disgusting. Its preventing other people from going to class. And it antisemitic. And its actually proterrorism. He doesnt need to bring in the islamophobia because you dont see jewish people out there doing what these prohamas people are doing. Have you seen any jewish person stabbed anybody