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Everyone in Martha Maccallum and this is the story. What the story it is today. Right now on the stand as you heard his Madeleine Westerhout. She was the former president s former Executive Assistant at the white house. John was just describing her history with the former president she talked about the access Hollywood Tape and how there was a lot of concern at the rnc back then if they maintain ocean need to find another candidate and we know how that ended. It is now day 14 in this trial and a short time ago Stormy Daniels wrapped up her testimony after pretty bruising crossexamination by a Trump Attorney who try to portray the actress as an opportunist, extortionist using her trump connection to make money, prosecutors came in for the cleanup after that, reminding Jurors Daniels said she wanted an agreement to feel safe. Unclear if any of this is relevant to what the jury needs to decide. No cameras in the courtroom as you know but her attorney posted this picture excuse me at earlier today saying he couldnt be prouder of his client. Judge jeanine was in the courthouse and she is here live coming up. Former attorney back Trump Attorney jim trustee and others here with breaking coverage this afternoon as court is back underway for the afternoon session. Lets check in with nate foy outside the courthouse. Hello nate. Reporter hey martha. Madeleine westerhout former president Donald Trumps former Executive Assistant is on the stampede she admitted she is very near his and she has never been in a courtroom she said. Right now she is just going through sort of her daytoday and her relationship with other witnesses in the case. You mentioned she was being questioned about the access Hollywood Tape being released and she said it rattled rnc leadership and recalls a conversation about possibly having to replace trump as a candidate if it ever came to that witch obviously it didnt. It comes after the crossexamination of Tracy Menzies It Book Publisher for harpercollins and also Trump Organization Junior Bookkeeper who served as former cfo alan weiss and burkes assistant she testified she sent checks from new york to the white house for trump design. You mentioned Adult Film Actress Stormy Daniels wrapped up her testimony. Trump lawyer Susan Necklace questioned her accountability. Stormy told the court i never asked from anyone in particular, i was asking for money from publications to sell my story to get the truth out. Trumps lawyers pointed out she ended up getting paid for the story to not come up. Daniels agreed to an nda with Michael Cohen for 130,000. Daniels said she signed it for her safety. Former u. S. President donald trump again criticized the gag order today saying his lawyers officially challenged the order in court today. 1 of 3 major issues trumps lawyers will bring before judge juan merchan when the jury is let out early today at 4 00. The gag order is an issue and we also expect trumps lawyers to ask for in this trial yet again and they also reportedly have concerns about possible testimony from the former Playboy Model Karen Mcdougall. Again that is at 4 00. Back to you martha. Martha okay thank you nate foy. Lets bring in jim trustee former particle federal prosecutor and attorney for john donald trump. Good to see you. Aloe martha. Martha how do you thank the crossexamination went . Its devolving into more and more of an unrecognizable circus. Stormy daniels is trying to go out and celebrate like she had a great day of credible testimony but this is just not recognizable in todays world she was apparently asked questions about whether her boyfriend but she was insane, she started talking apparently about how she had communicated with the dead and made money doing that. Ouija testimony coming out in this case. And look there are these thin reads of Calling Witnesses to try to establish President Trump was a hands on guy and therefore hes going to know somehow it was fraudulent to say Legal Expenses when it should have said Legal Expenses nda. If that is the difference between crime and innocent there we are in a strange world. The last points made about whats coming up at 4 00 the mcdougall issue is a big 1. Ethic the prosecution probably wanted to Call Mcdougall in the same philosophy of just throwing as much dirt as possible and the substitute for evidence. But the Weinstein Case of all things, curry weinstein, ribeiro emphasizes when you get into other bad acts that are not part of the charged scheme, you are in very perilous territory. They might have artie cross that rubicon but if they put mcdougall on the block themselves yet another issue. Martha thats an interesting point because we dont know yet whether or not mcdougall well be back on the stand but as you said the whole reason why the Weinstein Case was overturned they will retry it, is that there were too many outside, uncharged issues that were brought into the courtroom and the jury got to hear them. So do you think, you know, what do you think if you are in the prosecutions shoes where do you think they go next after Madeleine Westerhout . What they are doing is Building Space before cohen. You dont want to finish this case with Michael Cohen you dont want to have him right next to kind of Spectacular Circus like witness like a stormy i think theyre putting in some filler and stuff marginally helps them establish President Trump signs off on checks and things like that. They dont really establish the endgame but they are better than going right next to a ridiculous witnessed. I think were getting there and i think we will see cohen sooner rather than later. We dont have cameras in the courtroom i get it but of course knowing cohen maybe he will record it. He used to record his own clients so who knows. These will be a wild days and if they end up finishing with cohen animals nothing after that, you know, i would expect the defence turns around and says in light of that we are not putting on a single witness, lets go. Martha thats so interesting. Its own other things that this defence so far has been lengthy in the crossexamination and i have heard some attorneys say they would advise a more direct shutdown of why this doesnt matter and why that person is relevant to the case. Why do you think that is . 3 hours crossexamination today with stormy cat that have been done quicker . Yes, and i am a proponent of streamlining where you want the entire attention to be on cohen. You want this jury, in new york jury difficult place for donald trump. You want the jury thing of the case as a referendum on Michael Cohen. You have to believe him to find beyond a reasonable doubt any crime occurred. Can you possibly do that as a juror. That is the battleground you want for the defence. It bodes in terms of the other witnesses to being very sustained. What weve seen with the exception of stormy i think has followed the course of basically friendly cross get in and get out spirit, okay, jim great to have you. Thank you so much. 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Anyway the Big Take Away today was that the crossexamination of Stormy Daniels was and i think i said it before, master class. She took everything that Stormy Daniels said and she tore it apart. She was well prepared on direct but not crossexamination. Stormy daniels wanted martha thats the sign of a bad lawyer right . You can tell your story perfectly but then they are going to press into every single hole they can find a you better be ready. And she was not ready. The truth she said she just wanted to get her story out and it wasnt about the money. But the reality is that she started making money you, serious money the day she met donald trump because she cashed in on everything from the nondisclosure 130, a book deal for 800. Another contract for 120. Another contract for make America Hoarding again. You know, she goes on and on. Martha very profitable that 1. This is 1 of the things i thought was incredible, she said ive never sold myself to anyone. Are you kidding me . You are the essence of someone who sells themselves to other people. She talked about the fact that even though she had been in 200 porno flicks and had written and directed 150 the truth is, you know, she was able to right and create and make up stories about sex. That was brought out on crossexamination. Everything that she said about, you know, i just wanted to get it out it wasnt about the money, it was contradicted by Everything Else she said. Martha lets have a sound bite to that. Keith davidson who we heard from last week, he was Stormy Daniels attorney who handled this agreement between the 2 sides. 130,000 and we wont talk about this deal. Here is what he had to say watch this is michael con. He said Stormy Daniels wanted this money more than you can ever imagine. I remember hearing or saying you [ bleep ] better settle this story [ bleep ] if he loses this election we lose all of the [ bleep ] leverage. Martha so that is her pressuring than he in turn pressuring cohen for the money because she wanted to be paid right away. Thats exactly what im talking about. Everything she alleged to put herself in a better light nor make donald trump look bad was contradicted by other statements she made herself. Not of this was from other people saying things, it was thanks she was inconsistent with. Her credibility has been totally destroyed as a witness. Everything she said, there was something to contradict it. In the end when she talked about tarot cards and speaking to dead people i thought i was watching that tv show the sixth sense. She was not a good witness. Martha im always wondering as i sure im sure you are how is the jury taking this . What are they taking away from this because we can analyse and look at both sides. This is the senior legal analyst for cnn watch this. Today to me was off the rails. The line of question we open the segment with about, you are in pornography you can fake stories about sex. All of that is useless, it is pointless. I think it probably turns the jury more in Stormy Daniels favour. I think they completely lost the thread this morning with a cross exam. Martha he is arguing it was too tough on her and will make will sympathetic to her. Absolutely not khaki is absently wrong there. If the jury is going to turn against anyone its going to be on the prosecution. They are there to analyse and determine whether or not the people can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump committed 34 separate alleged felonies which we all know where misdemeanours beyond the statute of limitations and that they have to sit there and listen to this and make no mistake martha, that defence had to crossexamine that witnessed the way they did. They brought in something as far as im concerned if i were on that bench is a Collateral Issue that happened decades before the actual crime that is alleged. For them to bring that in and expect the jury to be subjected to that, we are and you know 1 of the jurors had in her hand and we already know that some of this is almost laughable, even the way she behaved on the jury and the way she looked on the witness stand. Kai mean she was just very uncomfortable, she kept touching her face and touching herself. She looked like a train wreck to be honest with you. No 1 is going to feel sorry for her because she made a fortune from the day she met donald trump she new that was her gravy train and thats what they are talking about and that audio with davidson. And in the end, nothing that she said but Connell Trump in contact with anybody as it relates to the payment from Michael Cohen to Stormy Daniels. That is the issue. If the jury is going to be angry they will be angry they have to listen to this because it is nonsense. It doesnt relate. And this is reversible error. Martha dew you think we were just discussing this, do you think they bring in Karen Mcdonnell or do you think its not a good idea at this point . I dont know back in fact i thought today it might be her there, i dont think so. I dont think she as anything. I think they know that with Stormy Daniels from their perspective they are probably thinking it was probably good maybe not so great. But there is nothing to gain with Karen Mcdougall at this point but who knows. They want to prolong this. You know, we see joe biden and florida all wherever he is with his Aviator Sunglasses while donald trump is in the bowels of manhattan in a Courtroom Listening to a porn star. I mean is she even a starkly i dont know. Martha i dont know. [ laughter ] i can honestly say i dont know. In terms of challenging the gag order we heard they filed a new bit of information to get that bag order appealed and overturned. That obviously, all of it is building the appeal case. If they dont do that now how do you think that side of it is going . I thank the gag order is totally unconstitutional. That they would gig 1 side and at the other. And that they would gag an individual running for president on top of that whos got First Amendment rights. Even at some point even judge juan merchan seem to indicate its something i have to thank about. This man was a president and may be another president again. That signalled a huge, something bigger to me than anything else judge juan merchan has done. I think maybe he is hearing that is reversible. A lot of what judge juan merchan is doing is reversible. If i was in that courtroom those lawyers would have been at my sidebar as soon as Stormy Daniels martha he is not a muscular judge in terms of, it yesterday at 1 point he said they should have objected more. They objected to every question. They objected to the witness. What hes doing their martha hes blaming the defence. He knows and he is saying to the higher court they didnt object all you have to do is read the transcript they objected. They are covered totally on that. Martha tha