Im Jesse Watters along with judge jeanine pirro, harold ford junior. Its 5 00 in New York City and this is the five. The fixer turned faux, Michael Cohen finally taking the stand at Alvin Braggs Hush Money Trial against donald trump. The radical da putting all his chips and the testimony of a disgrace, disbarred Serial Perjurer and convicted felon who was behind prison walls for 13 months. Today the jury got to hear from the man longing for trumps approval and affirmation and would do anything for it including taking out a Home Equity Line of credit to take care of the situation for his boss. And secretly recording donald trump without his knowledge. Is still no evidence of a crime yet. Trump still gags and unable to respond to his former attorney. He had this to say. Everybody saying there is no crime. He turned down the case and he could have been brought almost eight years ago, they bring it right in the middle of my president ial campaign. Theres no fraud here. Theres no crime here. This is four weeks of keeping me from not campaigning. The whole world is laughing now and new york weapon eyes legal system. Jesse they will have plenty of material to work with since Michael Cohen is about as sincere as people who say they like grey sweaters. Last month cohen said he would cease posting anything about trump during the trial. Then he goes on tiktok to trash him wearing a shirt that shows the former president behind bars in an Orange Jumpsuit and in handcuffs. There also trying to cash in by shopping this reality show the fixer. For years i was the first personal lawyers for a notoriously bad men. Since then ive been on a journey of redemption, looking to set things right. Now im paying it forward, wielding the tools that ive learned for regular people in trouble. The little guy doesnt usually have access to people with my particular set of skills. Jesse greg you are laughing the hardest to, you get to go first. Greg that was amazing seeing him do that. Im very shiny by the way i dont know whats going on here. Looks like i went for a big run. Its hard to poke holes in current in cohens testimony because its all holes and no cheese, its just air. Calling his show the fixer, what has a fixed . Look at his career right now, its like jesse pitching the show on humility. It should be called the rat because he looks like a rat. This is a lesson in law fair, where my looking . Once they set their sights on a target its just like regular warfare meaning they end up acting worse and doing more terrible things and aligning yourself with more despicable, rotten people than the actual person that you are targeting. You ask yourself whats worse trump taking the lawyers advice on an expense or what the prosecutors are doing which are using the felon who created the Legal Expense to imprison the defendant. In a weird way they dont know it but they are prosecuting uncle cohen right now instead of trump. I call this the queer for palestine moment. You know those activists that hate jews so much that they would ally with people that would eliminate them. To take down trump, nevermind everybody thats involved in this. You couldnt take better witnesses on behalf of trump. No one can take this guy seriously, even the guy that draws him is having problems. One last thing, its amazing that the media calls cohens testimony bombshells. This is a bombshell when he brought up. That was a conversation not recorded between the liar and trump. Showed in the bombshell be that they are talking about a privileged conversation between the lawyer and client, and you dont even know if its true, why are you reporting on it . They cant even explain the crime. Jesse this is following up the last star witness who was a woman who gets paid to have sex with men on television. Yes im aware thank you. Jesse she has sex on camera for money katie. I dont need you to explain any further. If you look at the testimony from today theres not a lot of new news that Michael Cohen is able to produce to the jury not to mention reporters who are talking about this because we can to televise and. Not a single witness has anything good to say about Michael Cohen. Went when you start hearing that he secretly recorded his client who is donald trump, that goes into his bucket of credibility as a negative when it comes to someone who is trustworthy. Youre supposed to have attorneyclient privilege, then he secretly recorded them so you can use it against them later, that is something i think most people say is in a red flag for them. Im surprised now that theyve had cohen testify, Stormy Daniels who owes donald trump Hundreds Of Thousands of dollars about the defamation case, i was surprised they didnt bring out. Given how much the media upheld him as the one guy who can bring down trump. Thats what theyve been hoping for this week with Michael Cohen. We will see if the jury buys it. Jesse when did they teach you in Law School Harold that you should secretly record your client . Harold i never took that class. Its good to be back around this table. I would agree with a lot thats been said. Greg makes probably the most interesting point and i will be interesting interested to hear the judges reaction. The same set of facts it seems like mr cohen was trying a while back. The target now being President Trump which i think is interesting. It is not lost upon me that i heard a number of legal scholars today on Different Networks and our own network commenting about the taping of this conversation. Theres no doubt there is sometimes lawyers believe that they need to have something on record if their client may be saying or thinking about or may be posing to do but you never. You may write it down yourself but it is bizarre but not illegal to tape your client and then be able to play a factor. I found that really odd. The flipside of it, what theyre trying to establish with cohen around whether or not these payments were made or what the motivation were further payments. I did not see all of it. I saw a lot of the transcript or what was being written about, reporting we have from the courtroom. This is only direct, it seems like cohen checks some of the boxes that the prosecutors might have wanted him to check in terms of establishing motivation. Im not yet seeing where mr trump was in on all of this in terms of directing it all. I guess we will have some more of that testimony later. I think i can quote the judge on this. They gave us a great definition of this last week, is he convincing being cohen, he is the key here. If that jury believes him on two fronts, one, the reason that the president paid his money was because of the Campaign Advancement and that he was in on all of it than the jury is going to have you understand now why the prosecution thinks theres something for the jury to answer. All of this is really not fair for the present at this moment until the crossexamination happens. We shared last week some of the credibility challenges that have already been considered about mr cohen. The crossexamination will certainly be interesting and incredibly intense. Jesse tickets through what happened today. Please tell us what this positive means. Judge jeanine let me tell you something. Michael cohen is a man with a cause. He is a man without a company, he is a man without a license, a man without a job and he is a man who is desperate. So he needs a conviction. He needs for people to believe him in order to survive. Because Michael Cohen has destroyed himself in all of this. The only way he goes forward in life is if he helps convict donald trump. The amazing part of this is in order to do that, he will do whatever is necessary. So lets talk about the table being set here. The table is set. Michael cohen comes in as the boy, the fixer, the guy who breaks. He comes in as a jerk, selfcentred, i guy who is hated and a guy who is screaming at people, prone to exaggeration, hostile and throws a barrage of insults. That is what we have heard on the peoples direct case. What we know about donald trump from people who have worked with him is that it was fantastic working for him, thats a quote. Then he was a really good boss. Then he was a multitasker. He was a hard worker, that it was great working for him. So that is your table. Now youve got the main witness as Michael Cohen, the hated guy going into this trial. This guy is so corrupt, hes not just a convicted felon, he is a convicted liar and a convicted perjurer. That is the essence of incredible. He should have a sign on his forehead that reads liar because we have defendants who Go Into Court that we crossexamine them as felons. But you are, per se, a believable unbelievable win you were convicted in perjury. Hes a guy who goes in, lies to the bank, lies what he puts on the bank statement, the purpose of the llc, says he is the retainer. Trump signed nothing. He has not put a finger on donald trump. Its just like Stormy Daniels. He hates donald trump, stormy hates donald trump and so the question is if there is a conversation between. And Michael Cohen, what does that have to do with donald trump if donald trump didnt sign anything or was not part of the conversation . I will tell you another motivation for Michael Cohen to lie and try to destroy donald trump, what bigger insult is it to work for donald trump as his fixer as michael called himself, then to not be invited into the white house. Do you know with all his friends he says im going to the white house, im probably going to be his counsel. Donald trump knew not to invite him. Donald trump knew not to make him part of the team. He knew exactly what he was. Finally, this is a oneonone people are talking about, do you believe one of the other, they are so wrong on that. Its not a oneonone. There is no obligation on the part of the defence to present any kind of. Whatsoever. The burden of proof is. You cannot infer or anything if the defendant chooses not to testify. Finally who was in the courtroom today . Alvin bragg again squeezing its one of those feuds. He knows his career is over. He knows his case is a loser. As weak as this jury looks in terms of the jury that is going to stand up and say we dont believe this, they know theyve got nothing. Nobody has put a finger on donald trump. Finally the nail in the coffin for Michael Cohen, how dare you take the. That is an echo ethical violation. What you recorded is meaningless, its not even a crime. You are stupid to. Jesse [ Simultaneous Talking ] jesse up next, donald trump gets a rockstar reception in a blue state while sleepy joe gets clobbered in the polls. 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[both laughing] from the trial to the trail, donald trump fired up a massive crowd of up to 100,000 people in deeper blue new jersey. Officially play in the state of new jersey. Were going to win the state of new jersey. You could take the ten worst president s in history of our country and add them up, they havent done the damage to our country that this total moron has done. With the election less than six months away, trump is clobbering joe biden in five key Battleground Swing States among likely voters. Of which biden one in 2020 including a doubledigit lead in georgia and nevada. So is the riding on the wall . One of the president s favourite commentators seems to thank so. I have to admit, none of this is playing out as i thought it would. Things are not working in bidens favour. He needs to do something bold and dramatic to seize the initiative. Hes more ahead than hes ever been everything that we are throwing is spaghetti at a wall and none of it is sticking. What we are doing is really not working. We have an expert here on the jersey shore. Jesse used to be gym, ten, laundry now its jim, trump, laundry. Jesse johnny was there, you will see that tonight. He said it wasnt 100,000, it was closer to 30,000. That still a packed venue and it is still 29,500 more than joe has ever had a. He did promise that if he was reelected to terminate the windmills that are marking the jersey shore and save the whales so thats a twofer. I like the little nickname, moron joe. Sleepy was good but it wasnt effective enough. If you have one side calling you a nazi genocidal dictator and he just says you are a moron, i think that sticks. He is opening up the border, breaking the bank, doesnt know where he is a man he leaves the stage. Moron joe is going to land and i can feel it. The rust belt is out of reach if these numbers stick. Nevada double digits and arizona. Georgia because of laken riley and fanny willis, thats gone. And that makes it a battle for the rust belt. Trump only needs one and it looks like they are going to come back home because he lost a little white. He lost some that he had with hilary, some of those whites you know how persnickety they can be. They went to joe biden, theyre coming home in the rust belt but his diversity is really increasing because of the young, black and hispanic there was a Coalition Last time. This up its up to 19 percent diversity. Thats all economic opportunity. You just dont have it. You cant buy a house. These feelings are entrenched. Theres never been a position where a candidate at this point has been down every single battleground and never come back. The only candidate to do that was donald trump. Judge it seems like the Trump Campaign and donald trump ought to expend the map. Theyre willing to go into new jersey and going into new york, theres also also thought he could win virginia if he plays his cards correctly. Are democrats trying to play, hashmak catch up . They are nervous and they know. They said it has to be a bold and dramatic move to seize the initiative or whatever. Hes never done anything bold and dramatic for the last three and a half years. I dont know what makes him think he can do it now. Trump and biden are essentially tide among 18 to 29 yearolds, tied and hispanic voters. More than that, i think that this trial, if you put the hay and b. Blocks together, i think one of three things are happening. Number 1 either people dont care about the trial or people dont believe that donald trump is guilty or people are totally offended by the concept of one party bringing a criminal charge against a man who is a former president running for president. I think thats going to affect american history. I think to all americans it is somehow offensive to us to be in a situation where you are literally putting a man on trial in a criminal case while he is running for president. Its just so on taste worthy. It is so inappropriate. Stings americans. I think that has a lot to do with it. Joe biden apparently is planning on bringing out all the celebrities now. He will bring out julia roberts, none of these celebrities helped Hillary Clinton when she ran against trump. When you get a blue state like new jersey, i dont know if its 30,000 or 100,000 which is what im reading in the reports, whatever it is, youve got a guy on trial who is showing up and people are showing up like crazy, bigger than weve ever seen. I think in the end of all of this, the swing states are going to stay deeply trump against a biden, especially for all the reasons you just said jesse. Harold, trump is the king of rallies and showmanship but democrats are the olympians of voters and they plan to be ahead by millions of votes ahead of election day for biden. Is not a good thing for democrats when it comes to the poles . Harold these are five months out but this is a snapshot of where the country is and where the states are. Its interesting that in georgia and nevada the former President Trump is at 50. In polls if you are incumbent and below 50 against your opponent, its always a challenge and you look at the poles if someone is at 50 thats always telling. We are five months out, we will have to see what happens. If i am biden and the team i take the alarm that they have been sharing. Its time to change something because its not w