Im dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, richard fowler, Jesse Watters, and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in New York City, and this is the five. The white house as the person or the group, whatever, they are the one trying this case. You heard who is doing all the talking. Representative from the white house. Just recently. This is all about biden cant campaign so he is trying to hinder his opponent. They are trying to hurt the opponent because they cant win it fair and square. Its lawfare. It is the third world country with campaigning. Such a disgrace. So sad to see what has happened to our country. Our country is going to hell under biden. Dana donald trump sounding up moments ago is as Hush Money Criminal Trial enters its final phase. Court is over for the day. Judge says he will make every effort to get the jury charges to both of the teams by the end of the day on thursday, so they have a fourday weekend to prepare their summations. Both sides have rested their cases and the former president will not take the stand. Eight days from now come on tuesday, Closing Arguments begin, and then it is into the Deliberation Room, which could come as soon as wednesday. The end game not coming without serious fireworks rocking the court. The judge clearing out the room and bob costello, former Michael Cohen legal advisor, allegedly making comments under his breath, rolling his eyes, and costello does cohen is full of it and light on the stand about what trump knew about mr. Menendez payments. Tried to poke holes in his story. Speaking of braggs star witness, Michael Cohen admitting he sold 60,000 from the trumpet organization. The media doesnt see that as a big deal, though. I have watched Michael Interact with a lot of people over the years. He has all those rough edges and all of the lies and all of this, but there is something compelled him at the same time, you kind of believe it, warts and all, that Michael Cohen, of course, has a checkered past, but we see convictions all the time, with cooperators who have far worse histories, contract killers, mobsters, and yet, you get convictions. The defense may think they racked up a big victory for themselves today. Now pocketing 30,000 might be shady, but it doesnt change the facts of the case. Dana trey gowdy was inside the courtroom come he joins us at the table to break it down. Was a good to be back in court . Trey it was. I got a headache just like i did in the old days. I loved being in there but i felt powerless. When you are an observer, and you want to whisper something, particularly the judges rulings, his strike zone is a little bit different from the prosecution and the defense. Wanted to get involved. I was a prosecutor, not the defense attorney, but i felt the strike zone was really, really small for the defense team, and it got smaller as the day went on. Dana okay, judge jeanine, what do you think of the timing that we have . The jury not going to get this until next week. I am really flabbergasted by that. Judge jeanine well, i am, as well. Which is the idea this judge is going to charge the jury on tuesday and then they start deliberating on wednesday no. Let me tell you how it goes in a real courtroom. I dont know where this merchan is from but in a Row Courtroom what happens is as soon as the parties finish presenting their cases, the defense chooses to put on one, and we know they dont have to, the judge calls them in for a jury charge conference, and then he tells them, go right into summations, and i personally would have my court clerk get everyones name and phone number of the person they want to call to say they are not coming home tonight because if i am coming close to the end of a case, i tell them, you are bringing a toothbrush at a change of clothes. I dont know if im keeping you tonight but chances are he might, and then my court clerk will call your wife, girlfriend, lover, significant other, whoever it might be, and we are going to move this case a long beard i want those jurors in the Deliberation Room as close as possible to the evidence. And this is just prolonging it. It feeds right into the belief they are just trying to keep trump off the campaign trail. But i think even more stunning about all of this is that when we were listening to what they were saying on those other networks, they were saying, we see convictions all the time and cases. We see killers. Well, i think that trey would agree with me that the essence of incredible witness is a witness who lies. As a witness who cheats and steals. A killer in the sense of credibility may be more credible than a thief, than someone who perjured himself. These people dont know the first thing about the law, and yet they are saying, you know, this case is great, there is no case, no crime has been proven, i dont even know what the felony is that brings to light dead misdemeanors, and neither does anyone in that courtroom a. This is embarrassing. Dana we have trey here, so if i ask you to comment, do you want to ask him a question . You are on deck, as they say. Jesse watters, your thoughts as they wrap it up, but it prolongs for another long fourday weekend. Jesse average americans see this case about sex. This is a he said, she said. This is the democrats trying to criminalize an affair that trump may or may not have had 20 years ago. And trump says he didnt have an affair. He says he is being extorted. With the American Public doesnt even care if he had the affair or not. We are now in bill clinton territory, it is about lying about sex. His numbers went up. We knew trump was a playboy when he ran in 2016. We put him in the white house. This case is so confusing. The charges are convoluted. Justice scalia, god rest his soul, said election law is the hardest law. He doesnt even understand it. No one can see inside the courtroom. No one knows who the lawyers are. No one knows what the judges look like. It is very hard for your average News Consumer to wrap their head around this case. Because, even as news purveyors, we are relying on whats said and observed inside the courtroom. Jeanine is lucky enough to go in court. Trey is lucky enough. They get to experience the color. We are just all kind of grasping at straws. We look at fox, oh, Michael Cohen is a liar and Michael Cohen is a thief beard and then you turn on msnbc, and they say, well, lying makes you more believable and it is not stealing, you are just rebalancing the bonus that you thought you were owed. So the jury is going to have six days to what . My phone has alerts. Judge jeanine seven days. Jesse i pick up my phone, i get an alert, wall street journal, get an alert, people magazine. Theyre going to pick up their phone, trump expands his lead over joe biden, oh, my god how are they going to defend against that . They are going to be Walking Around manhattan. They are going to see the New York Post cover, the New York Times cover. They are going to be with all of their tds friends over memorial day weekend. This whole case has been a mistake from the beginning. It is 100 political into think these jurors can take politics out of it is absolutely crazy. Im trying to be realistic, dana. You know im not going to get ahead of myself and predict something thats not going to happen because i want it to happen. I believe this is going to result in a conviction, and then the minute it hits, all the media is going to pump out these polls that show trump now losing momentum. They are going to manufacture a momentum loss, and thats how theyre going to try to push this thing forward because Biden Campaign is dead in the water. Dana you imagine the editors would tell all of the reporters and the papers, you have to refer to him now as convicted felon and former president donald trump. Greg you know, the jury isnt heading to a monastery. They are returning to the very environment that primed them for their bias to begin with. Thats intended. They know that. Shara hell they are hoping the impact the implosion of the case will fade over time when they return. You are leaving essentially the jurors left the cesspool of New York City to the sanitized environment of the courtroom, only to return to the same cesspool. Its like going from a portal at the new York City Marathon to a sterile Operating Room and then returning to the porta potty. Why did you go to the courtroom to begin with . Why did we waste our time . Putting them among friends and relatives in social media, tiktok videos, everything that will contaminate them will recontaminate and your brain starts to work again, all of the stuff you heard, the facts, that cohen is a piece of crap will all go away, and the media folks need to take a breath and ask themselves what the derangement is doing to them. Did Donny Deutsch ever think in his life that he would put all of his trust in a perjurer, a fraudster, and a thief because he hates donald trump . This is the hitler excuse that work. Ive talked about this. If you brand something hitler, then your behavior no matter how abysmal it is is excused. This is why nobody trusts the election system. If they rigged the Justice System, crawl into bed with criminals, to fight hitler, why wouldnt they resort to heroic malfeasance when it comes to elections. Right now they are Targeting Hundreds of republican lawyers with legal action or before an election there is another coincidence. Peter navarro still in jail, targeting trump come obviously, how naive are you to think that this stuff isnt going to continue and spread into other avenues of our life . Dana want to get to richard and just a second but because you were in the courtroom and with your experience, do you want to comment on the jury having this length of time . Trey it is really hard for me to understand why the judge is allowing this much time between the last piece of evidence no more evidence is coming in, the judge is going to say summation is not evidence. So this much time, this much opportunity, im not over my hopefulness, dana, but i usually think something talismanic happens when people take an oath. I have seen juries do the right thing too many times. I just think the more time that passes, the more temptation there is to go and search and do your own research, and in south carolina, we would be waiting on a verdict right now, we would have already given Closing Arguments. Dana richard, the last word. Maybe im the only person a disagrees dana you might be. Richard i dont want to make a prediction but i think the former president is going to walk and i will tell you why. Dana i agree with you. Richard thank you. Listen, there are two numbers three numbers that matters here, seven, 12, two. There are seven days we are going to wait for them to come back into court, 12 jurors, and i think there are two two weeks since they have heard from Michael Cohen, which is the all star witness for the prosecution. The farther and farther they get away from his testimony, the less likely they are to remember it. The less likely to remember it means, what do you do again . Did he really take the money and really sign in . Maybe he didnt do it. To jesses point, this is really complicated. Even though there are two lawyers on this jury, maybe he did it, maybe he didnt it, can i prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt, 101 that he did this . Im not sure. So guess what, im going to say he didnt do it, and i think the seven days, if you listen to the president , he would say this jury is rigged for the judge is rigged. Effect the judge gave them some days he said to me the starch is like, i want them to have a good memorial day go judge jeanine shame on him. Richard sure but if there were Closing Arguments today, they would be more likely to get a conviction then there was seven days with them going home and not thinking about this case, versus the other way around. Jesse never agreed with richard fowler. Dana lets memorialize this. Judge jeanine can i Say Something . I agree with trey. I really believe that the jury is trying to get it right. I do. As hard as i can be on some of these people that i see, i really hope that you are right and that the jury gets at. Richard there are two lawyers on this jury. Greg like thats a good thing . Dana trey is going to stick around because there is much more drama to talk about on the legal scene. Up next, fani willis playing the race card as she fights to save her job. Its good to get some fresh air. Fresh air . Hi guys bill, you look great now that i have inspire, im free from struggling with the mask and the hose. Inspire . 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Georgia had never had a prosecutorial Oversight Committee, and all of a sudden, 14 minorities were elected to office to serve as District Attorney, and now, all of a sudden, they need an Oversight Committee to look after District Attorneys because they want to tell us how to prosecute and who to prosecute and where we should put our resources. As opposed to allowing the voters that put us in these seats to make those determinations. Apparently we now need daddy to tell us how to do our job. Greg richard, what do you make of her claim . All of a sudden, was it because she is black . Richard i mean, i will say that the law did happen after she was elected. But look, lets talk about this. There is a primary election in georgia today. It is very likely that fani will win this primary election. It is very likely that fani will win reelection in november and she will continue to serve as the d. A. Or Fulton County. I think it is worth pointing out here that since she has been the d. A. , you have seen a Demonstrative Decrease a precipitate of decrease in crime, Violent Crime down 20 , homicides down 26 . Greg reporting on crime is down. Richard but also convictions okay, sure, but convictions are also up a record number. She has taken down, using the rico statute a number of different ways to take down cheating scandal, murderers, over and over again you have seen her office, the d. A. s office, in Fulton County, p actually very effective at stopping major crime. And now there is a case against the former president. We will see where that case goes. Right . He is innocent until proven guilty. But i think it is worth pointing out that her track record as a d. A. Seems to be moving in the right direction, outside of the trump case. Before we flatter her and say she is not doing a good job, hen Fulton County is actually exceptional, which is why folks in Fulton County are getting ready to vote for her again. Greg ill slander her. I think she sucks. Judge . Richard you dont live in Fulton County. Judge jeanine you came to the right person. Me tell you something. Richard anyone got laid, wade got paid, and the taxpayers got played. You can tell me until the cows come home that crime is down, we all know crime is not down especially in the county, okay . This claiming come im a victim, im a victim, poor me, she did it in church. I never had sex in with that person sounds like bill clinton when she went before the church. She is an incompetent District Attorney based upon the fact that she hired her boyfriend, 650,000 to handle a rico case about which he knew nothing. The man never tried a felony case. She went on vacation with him five times in six months and paid him back in cash. Who are we kidding here . Le