Joey jones and greg gutfeld. It is 5:00 right here in new york city. Ththis is the five nearly 40 dae of silence leading up to 20inuts six total minutes of air time. In an interview last night for vice president harriirtimeviewsa running mate, tim walz, they sat down with cnnll for their first big media interview since replacing biden on the democratic ticketervieet. Harris claimed her values have not changed this when she was presses haved. D why she has done an about face on some major voter issues like fracking. Take a listen. Do you still want to ban fracking? no. And i made that clear on the debate stage 2020 thatwo i would not ban frackingno as vice president. I did not ban fracking. As president, i will not ban king, as inot ba back in 2024. Eo and i've not changed that position, nor will i going forward. Change t or wii kept my word anp my word. What made you change that positio n at the time? well, let's be clear. My value let'ss have not changec well,king harris, is fracking 180 providing a roll the tape moment for us here. Watch what actually said during the 2020 campaign. There's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. Fagr abou will not end frackin. He has been very clear about that. I will repeat and the american people that joen wi biden will not banll fracking. That is a fact. That is a fact. Inter the other big interview moments last night involve the man that she replacents lasd on the top of the democratic ticket. That's obviously president biden. Harris defende pred their jointt record together in office, especially when it comes to the economy and thcord tog shborder. She also revealed whether she had any regrets about vouchinghl for the president, about amid all the concern about his fitness foconcr office. Watch this. You insisted that president biden is extraordinarily strong. Given where we are now, do you have any regrets about what you told the american people? no, not at all. He hastorican pe intelligence, the commitment and the judgment and disposition that i think the american people rightlyside deserve in their president. You raise your hand whennt whether or not the border t should be decriminalizedhe. Do you still believe that? i believe there should be consequence. I'm the only person who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations who traffickintionalrganizatg d beings. You have been vicehuman. President for three and a half years. The steps that you're talking about now. Why haven't you done them already? well, first of all, we had tod o recover as an economy, and we have don ae that. We've maintained by nomics is a success. There's more do, but that's good work. T to all right, let's kick it out to the table, greg. After this. Obviously highly anticipatedn th 40 days in the works interview last night, a long form interview w. We only got 26 minutes, but that might be the longest we hear from6 minu tha her befo the election or before the debates, anyway. O i think the important question for folks to ask i'm themselves coming out of it is what i'm going to ask you right now, which is what is comical ask rhich harris' vir the country and what does she stand for? it's like the media it' equivalent of constipations li. In other words, you just anticipating and anticipating nothing. They needed some fiber. You knowl. That amused soul. Ot it was not interesting. I felt like i'd stumbled intofec a parent teacher conference and their kid was joe bidedn. Th and they had to they had to, arn like, tiptoe around the fact that that joe is older than i everybody else but can't anything. It was 20 minutes that felt like 200. They took like the most anticipated interviethook ipatei days and it felt like a stale bag of nuts from a vending machine. I was nonplused. That was the point. The goal here was a controlled demolition. You know, limit the damagwase to 18 minutes for topics. Foe she didn't like score a point. She did get a hita but she also didn't pull a biden. And that's all they could hope for. This wasthat'sl they safer thana convent. Fo the thing that that really me though and the big issue the no follow up. All right so they asked she asked harris well on the one question, there was some follow. Y that was it? yeah, it was said there was one. Roere was when they askeasked e harris about her role in lyingle to the american people about joe's mental state. And they couched it dan ca catch couch is do you regret telling the american people he was strong. And of course harris took the word regret and made it nota about lying to americabout but about serving biden. Of course, she has nino regretgs about working with joe biden. But that wasn't the question. It wast , do you regret lyingyi to america? and there was no follow up tong tand th. 's it was it was it's amazing that in these last two weeks, trump' lass done like five plusu hours worth of interviews, they couldn'oft manage to do 20 minutes of transparency. It was just a fog platitudes and evasive pivots. It wasn't just horriblt e. It wasn't enough to be horrible. It was inept. It was. It it was dead. It felt like it was in a i conference room at the days inn. It was like it was like a deposition. It was just there was was nothing. So to your greg's point about hes r, when it comesme to vouching for president biden ,axelrod over on cnndavid actually liked her answer. He gave her kudorod ons for. Take a listen to what a he said. Who cares about him? hie didn't run away from himbou she gave him, i think, his due. She understands that there's hsh some risk to that. That actually was elevating to me in a wayer. That i hadn'tk on expected. So i think on the whole, this was a good night. The whos it wasn't a huge i doh she moved the ball that much forward, but she's certainly didn't fall back. Eugene levy so elevating in way he hadn't expected. What do you think about that? kennedy. Yeahno hink abo, i of agree with greg e who pulled his chain and i don't think her stance on joe biden is particularly difficult to answer. And i don't think it's particularly importani dono one really cares about joe biden this point. Joe biden doesn't seem to care about jo this int. N doese biden. He doesn't care about governing the country. So, you know, sures no she canlk shellac his presidency all that she need i and i dtho think the question could have been phrased better. You know coue when did you knowh that the president was in decline? becauseat did know everyone knew. We all knew. And we, ev weren't the last pern in the room, which was how she phrased it when she was talking about their horrible afg afghanistan withdrawal plan. She was the last person wi biden. Asi so the point of that was i know him best. Longe i sit with him the longest. Th if that's the case, then shse have known first that there was something really, really wrong with himer wwith him and she hai the american people. Remember when anderson coopeser actually her after that horrific debate and sheif e promised people if there was something wrong with joe biden? re s i would be the one to say something? it's like, well, why didn't you say somethin whyug? why didn't you talk with some of your colleagues sbout th e 25th amendment? maybe because she knew this maybe and if she the q sat there and answered the questions likeue, a good little warrior, that she would be rewarde, thatd with the. Nomination. No one would stand in her way. Not joe bide non, not the obamas, not josh shapiro, not gavine th newsom. And the whole thing would be hers without any pushbackinga at all. That was a deal that she made with the devill that and signed it in her own blood red ink. So part of the problem for her, emily, is that she was trying to like, i hate,e the expression thread the needle, but i guess she was trying to thread tryi oh, e where it's like was it's always had to be about right. Ou because she's a woman. Got it. Ri yeah. Ght it's sexist,s a man? but try i fully support everything he's done, i stand by our for the last three and a half years. But it's also timeurd, turn the page. It's two opposite directions. We can't really do both things. Right. I felt like it was like when you watcheo thl liked she spoust that are fighting and when they're fighting and then fi ther child just did this today but when they're united it's oh look today billy got straight a'sht s right? our son is so amazing. She's clearly trying, ou to divr herself from the administration only when it serveyi ts her ande sheer volume of those flip flops for dana bash noflipflotr further and say, well, talk to me about this evolution. How exactly have you changed hoy and why? e that's all point people have excuse it on the left by saying, well, every politicianchange hav flops, noth and not this heavily. So why t this m as who is so committed to these values that clearly run the entire gamutto? i was so sorely underwhelmed. Greg, i agree with you. This is a prosecut sorely e her she likes to remind us, not only is this our sitting viceg e president, this was the senator and the attorney general and more. She wantedpresidena senato remiv did not deserve sneakers on the cover of vogue, t beca that because she was vice president, she should have been in heels. She president with the spouses of all the leaders of foreign nations because shshe decle sai7 summit. No, no, no. I'm the vice president. I command respec t. Et i won't meet with the spouses. And now here we are led to believe she can't eveses. New conduct an interview solo. She can't formulate thoughts. She was clearle can'oughtsy totl unprepared, except for her pull the chain comments that shared. Likes to repeat and otherwise. There was zero command ou knowledge information and experience that you would expect out of someone who's been in tht eonen ine white hous four years and who wants to be there for another four years at thenother top. We're going to get into governor walz in the next block a bit, but i just want igoverno you, joey, because there was so much criticism of him joining this interviews beforeace, e it took place. Everyone, you know, sort of coming down harvert o d, certainly, she and saying she should have handled this one solo. So now that wed have handled han the interview, do you think it was the right call for himo itt to be or not?e no i have no idea why he wasy there other than maybe to make her look smarterhether, more intelligent, or more eloquent in her speech. I don't know. The things he did say we'll talk about later e said. But just to go back to her interview. Listen, the point of this interview wasn'to point get her answers on record. It was to offer her anecor opportunitd,t way to correct the record, to make it altt itothed out so she doesn' to be questioned about it whm theyhen they came back fro the first commercial break, they literally ran the intro f to the second segment was it was an ad foorr kamala harri hat and then there was a clip from trump when he went to the the organization of black journalists and sitting there getting drillejournalid. T the very first question, are you racist? and the irony in thae u t is thp they only had that clipp of trump because he will sit down and answer from anyone. He doesn't he's not afraid he won't back down. She gave more details about the breakfast that she supposedlt ky when she was told that biden ths dropping out than any policy to ask her. I mean, the only numbers or facts i could i could find o. I took notes from the part of the interview that was obviously went back to college footballrt oi , but she said a $10,000 tax credit that's called j. D. Vance wants to earn $6,000 tax credit. That's j. D. Vance wants to do ten. And then she said, we're she will give you $25,000 so c you can buy a house that cost twice as much as did last year. H and tell me how that's a good deal. But we know about bacoood dealna and pancakes and puzzles and all the other horsnd andeli. That threw in there that i don't believe any of it. Real quick, we go to break. I don't even know if we but a have time for this, but brian jennings nabbed an interviewiew with president trump, the first one after last night. Here's his takaf a e on the debate excuse me, on the interview. I think it was not exactly a great performancw. I te, bue it was a low energrfory performa to take all of that time and get ready for that kind of an interview. It wasthat kin softball intervik that i really think that probably, if you look at it, it was nothat prot consid a big success. If you go by the reviews, it s considered much less of a success. All right. Coming out, v. P. N asucces harri the only one in the hot seat last night. Governor tim walz, as we just mentione governd was there, he was finally asked about some accusations about stolen, next. About his record reading. Get into that nexext hour where i went right down to a guy who a guy, tom robbins. This congress guy. No, the bright guy in that group. I want to