Good evening i'm guy benson alongside anita vogel, lisa boothe and charlie hurt, welcome to the big weekend show, the big story tonight trumps tough talk. The problem with another debate, it is too late, boating has already started speaker it seems like donald trump won't be debating kamala harris again as you just heard that meanwhile harris critics say if she wins, the tax may come in, and irs union has endorsed her. Fox news correspondent alexandria hoff is live in wilmington north carolina. Good to see you. It to be with you this evening, trumpets created a lot of buzz about his talk about revising the tax code in the spring to that in lincoln savannah georgia on tuesday, meanwhile vice president hears as you mentioned she is touting an endorsement by the irs agent union, the president stating, the hears is the clear choice, she shares our values and commitment to making sure the federal government works for all americans continuing, she is a powerful force for workers and unions recognizing that taxpayers are better served with the federal workers and workforce is organized and empowered to help agencies me to important public service missions. In wilmington forever president trump highlighted his plan to help american workers. We will massively cut taxes for workers, we will have no tax on tips. We will have no tax on overtime and no tax on social security benefits for our great seniors. While working americans catch up, were going to put a temporary cap on interestrate on credit card debt at 10%, some people are paying 25 and 30%, it is crazy. Were getting him more about that on tuesday for before the rally started that's when vice president harris excepted a second debate date with cnn saying i would gladly accept the second presidential debate on october 23. I hope donald trump will join me but trim confirmed soon after he is not interested. The problem with another debate, it is too late. Voting has already started, i would love to in many ways but it's too late the voting has cast. Early voting has started in places like virginia, minnesota, south dakota but fundraiser today in new york, let harris, the vice president feels the former president is making excuses not to make the stage with her again. Thank you so much we appreciate that report, she is refusing to appear on this network, not sure how she would describe as an excuse but i think we know was going on there personally. Charlie, i want to start with you on this. I feel like if you are the harris campaign and get endorsed by the irs agent you might want to keep that a secret. We don't need a press release, you can put out an internal memo but instead the irs is very probably that, let harris shares our values, why do they have a union outer. Great question the most important question, why do they have a union, when it first came out i actually did not believe it i thought it was put up by the trim campaign because it was too hilarious. It is beyond comedy, jesus loved everybody but when jesus wanted to point to somebody it was the tax collectors, meanwhile donald trump talking about people who work for a living and talking about trying to cut people's taxes whether you are a waiter, working overtime, he is talking about people that work and kamala harris is collecting the endorsements of the tax collectors. I guess it election cycle where you could not possibly make up anything more absurd that we already have, here you have it. I would point out not a surprising endorsement, especially because in the socalled inflation reduction act that bernie sanders admitted in joe biden has admitted had nothing to do with fighting inflation, they doubled the irs and the bill and the folks that decided that broke the tie in the senate, kamala harris the vice president. Lisa i would love to get your reaction, let's put on the screen i'll pull from cvs that has been published today, donald trump leading kamala harris by six points on the issue of the economy, he is down for nationally in the pool to harris. But it's also very close like margin of error in the swing states about grant states that said advantage for trump but not exactly the big lead that he is boasted even a number of weeks ago on that issue, is out of concern for the trump campaign. Lisa: i don't because prices have increased by 20% with the current administration which she is a part of, why would anyone trust the democrats on the issue of the economy when they lied about the inflation reduction act, joe biden recently admitting that that was the biggest climate spending bill ever so they lied about that, kamala harris bring being the tiebreaking vote boosted the irs's steroids, $80 billion and she claims every time she's asked about the economy, i come from a middleclass family but clearly she does not care about the middle class families because we know the irs, 63% of new audits in recent years targeted those making under $200,000, the very families that shipper claims she cares about and a part of even though she grip of one of the richest neighborhoods in canada and her story might be a lie but those of the families that she's targeting with about. At this point if you're a boater why would you trust democrats on the economy. On the debate question, it feels like i'm somebody who likes more scrutiny for candidates. I think having them debate each other is a good thing and i would before another debate this to be the third presidential debate the second featuring kamala harris but it doesn't look like that's necessarily in the cards, why did she feel like she gets to determine what the stage will be, i'm fine with this network but she won't pretend like she's ignoring entirely our offer of a debate at fox. Anita: cnn already had a debate i don't know why they would get a second debate. I would think fox should have a bite at the apple before cnn gets a second bite. Again we talked about this last night, i'm not sure, either of the candidates any good given that the needle did not move after the last debate, does that mean people have made up their minds no matter what they say on stage, yes there are independent undecided voters out there but the numbers are very small and one would point on this endorsement by the national treasury employees union, don't take she would rather have the teamsters endorsement. Guy: but she does not. Then there's this, i want a flashback action remember when feel presidential candidate hilary clinton trashed trump supporters as the portables. You can put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of the portables, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it it unfortunately there are people like that and he has lifted them up. Now she might be back for a sequel on this. Here is hilary clinton the same woman claiming that trump is winning bluecollar because of fear tactics. Why do you think he gets almost half the country behind him, and particularly the working class from a combination of demagogic leaders like trump who appealed to the fears, navajo the fears, social media which can spread all source of conspiracy theories, alternative explanations, alternative facts about why things are not going as well as you would like them to go or what can be the explanation for the. I think there is a social political cultural and technological set of reasons the addict to the political differences. Guy: lisa, it really sounds like she is arguing that you can't come to supporting donald trump and republicans honestly have to be a nefarious thing where you're getting fooled with misinformation and conspiracies, is that she basically insulting these people say they're too dumb to realize they're being bamboozled by donald trump rather than realizing what's in their own interest? america is a basket of portables but is a basket of one and hilary clinton isn't it she has a significant portion of the american people. I think this was in large part why she lost the election, her inability to connect with real americans, working americans and then you have the contrast of donald trump in 2016 talk about the forgotten men and women in bringing manufacturing back to the united states and how immigration was hurting the country, not helping the country and touching on a lot of the issues that the voters cared about, then she wrote a book about listing all the excuses as to why she lost as opposed to looking internally which is one person, her. Guy: nancy pelosi said something similar a few weeks ago earlier in september at an event in texas, let's watch. There are people who will never be, shall we say inclined to support democrats because they just have a different orientation toward women, people of color, lgbtq, they are just never going to be there, say that's about 30% or something like that of the republicans. Guy: if i'm doing my math correctly, things are getting better because hilary clinton said half of trump supporters were the florals under deportable publishing got down to 30%. Charles: is amazing to listen to people like nancy pelosi who spent her life very successfully in politics divided everybody by race and gender, that is how her entire party works, also is interesting with hilary clinton, again it's an attack on workingclass people and workers going back to the thing that we talked about a minute ago we had democrats on the side of the irs and have donald trump on the side of people who actually work for a living. I think it's interesting that she wants to talk about conspiracy theories and blame this on conspiracy. One reason that a lot of people believe in conspiracy theories because a lot of these conspiracy theories are not true, the difference between conspiracy theory in a new story is about three weeks and if you remember it all began with donald trump in 2016 when donald trump sat there spying on my campaign and he was kidnapped his conspiracy theorist, he was laughed out of proper society and altering out to be 100% true. Hilary clinton's campaign paid for. Guy: anita, why not stick to criticizing it attacking the candidate, the opponent rather than tender supporters and voters. I think it's not a great tactic to criticize other voters, it does not show a whole lot of tolerance which their party is supposed to be known for. But hilary couldn't, this is your playbook last time and i guess she thought it was somehow successful and it wasn't a show use it again. Guy: she's not the president, it wasn't that successful. Anita: she's very better speaker a jampacked show ahead of the big weekend show. A lot coming up including this. I want to thank you all for being here and now, who am i introducing next, who's next. Guy: oh boy, not a great moment on the world stage another gaffe for the man who is still technically president of the united states. Another battle over free speech, gavin newsom escalating his feud with elon musk with a lawsuit, also this. Alexa why should i vote for donald trump. I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate. Why should i vote for kamala harris. There many reasons to vote for kamala harris. Guy: sorry i can't, except i c can, another a. I. Tool, praising kamala harris, bashing trump effectively, we will discuss that in more coming up. welcome back to the big weekend show, the secret service leadership on blast as the congressman leading the investigation into the first trump assassination attempt now calls for more training in socalled competent people on the ground, fox news correspondent madeleine rivera is in washington, d. C. Tonight. On thursday the house bipartisan task force investigating former president trump assassination attempt is holding a hearing, we don't have a list of witnesses just yet, the secret service internal report into the butler pennsylvania shooting could come up, expect committee members to be highly critical of the lack of communication and followthrough by the secret service to better secure the rally site. To use the word complacent, and protecting former president or presidents were presidential candidate or vice candidates, there can be no complacency. Working to find a number of failure. Acting secret service director ron grow admits the buck stops with them since the attack against trump agency has given the former president the highest level of protection can provide burning their assets and resources, funding for the secret service came under more scrutiny last week after the apparent second assassination attempt against trump in his golf club in west palm beach, florida, senate majority leader chuck schumer says he's open to greenlighted more money for the agency but some lawmakers say that does not solve the real problem of finding the right people into signing them to the right tasks. These guys are exhausted they have been played out to the very end but we look at where were spending money, redeploy try to get more people on board, this is not a easy task. The casper's praises secret service were being forthcoming and calling on the fbi which is doing his own investigation into trump assassination attempts to be more transparent, and washington fox news. The front page of the new york times implies it's donald trump's fault you must got assassinated on the golf course the article reads mr. Trump's approach to solve including his frequency apply in over preferences for a handful of courses has posed steep challenges for the secret service, secret service acting director privately told mr. Trump that the agency would need to take significant new steps to protect them if you continue to play, the warning from the agency raise the possibility that mr. Trump could adjust or how often he plays. I guess it is donald trump's fault for wanting to play golf? exactly. Charles: both of these assassination attempts could've been prevented with the most basic security attention to detail, that is a problem it's not the donald trump was giving a speech, he is supposed to or that he was golfing. The other thing they specifically blame is over preference for a handful of courses suggesting the real problem here that he is donald trump and he's a builder and he has courses. The other thing if you read the story, the big picture on the front page with the secret service agents, one is holding a newsy on the side of the car protecting ronald reagan, the story talks about how ronald reagan decided not to play golf because it was a