The region , despite pressure the region, despite pressure from more than 80 of his mps to do so. Instead rishi sunak is backing what hes calling specific pauses in the conflict to allow for the Safe Delivery of aid into the region. Five british people are still among more than 200 being held hostage in gaza. In gaza. The first and most important principle is that israel has the right to defend itself under International Law. Our support for that position is absolute and unchanged. But from the start , we have also said that we start, we have also said that we do want british nationals to be able to leave gaza and that we want hostages to be released and for humanitarian aid to get in. And we recognise that for all of that to happen, there has to be a safer environment , which of a safer environment, which of course necessitates specific pauses as distinct from a ceasefire. Ceasefire. Will the u n ceasefire. Will the un secretary general has rejected israels accusation that he justified the terror attacks carried out by hamas on october the seventh. Yesterday, Antonio Guterres told the Security Council its important to recognise the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. Well in response to that, israels un ambassador condemned his speech as shocking and has called on the man to resign. The uk government also resign. The uk government also criticised the comments, saying they were undiplomatic. Antonio they were undiplomatic. Antonio guterres himself has defended the speech, saying it has been misinterpreted and i am shocked by the misrepresentation by some of my statement yesterday in the Security Council , as if. As if Security Council, as if. As if i was justifying acts. Of terror was justifying acts. Of terror by hamas. By hamas. This is false. It was the opposite in the beginning of my intervention yesterday, i clearly stated and i quote, i have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented. Horrifying and unprecedented. 7th october acts of terror by hamas in israel. Now, a former South Wales Police officer has been jailed for life with a minimum term to serve of 12 years for Sexual Offences against children. Lewis offences against children. Lewis edwards used fake social media accounts and posed as a teenager to groom more than 200 young girls online when he forced his victims to take indecent videos and images of themselves , then and images of themselves, then using the material to blackmail them in sentencing, the judge described his behaviour as cruel and sadistic and said he posed a dangerous risk to children. Head of the mets Online Investigation Team , detective superintendent team, detective superintendent tracey rankin, said the force was quick to respond. Was quick to respond. It was just devastating to know that that person was one of our own at the time of the offending and im really grateful of the swift nature that he failed to stop being a Police Officer because, you know, he was he was sacked, which im really you know, that sends a very strong message that, you know, we wont tolerate this sort of activity and behaviour. Meanwhile the two metropolitan Police Officers have been sacked after being found guilty of gross misconduct over the stop and searches of two black athletes. Two black athletes. Ricardo dos santos and his partner Bianca Williams were stopped in their car in london in 2020. Nothing was found and no arrests were made. But the no arrests were made. But the pair publicly accused the force of racial profiling. Five officers were investigated. All officers were investigated. All officers were investigated. All of them denied wrongdoing. But the panel upheld complaints against pc Jonathan Clapham and sam franks residence. 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She said in june that shed received news of the honour on the same day she was diagnosed with Breast Cancer with gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying, play gb news. This is britains news channel. Britains news channel. Thanks for that, polly and Michelle Dewberry with you till 7 00 tonight alongside the columnist for the mail on sunday, Peter Hitchens and the co founder of know just about, say, the co founder of novara media. But he is not this is definitely i dont think youve ever been mistaken for this guy before. Matthew stadlen is alongside me. Im so sorry. I was on autopilot then. I must have an in boston on my brain. But no, this is matthew. Very but no, this is matthew. Very delighted to introduce you back to the panel tonight. You know, the drill, dont you, as well, on dewbs co its not just about us three or aaron. Quite frankly. Its about you guys at home as well. Whats on your mind tonight . You can get in touch with me all the usual ways. Is how ways. Vaiews gbnews. Com is how you get hold of me. Or you can tweet me at gb news. Of course. Top story in town today, the israel hamas war continues , israel hamas war continues, renews a frequently feel like i say this, but things do seem to be getting worse by the day. So it seems there do seem to be, though. The calls for ceasefire are getting loudly and loud , are getting loudly and loud, called by various different parties. Now called by various different parties. Now has called by various different parties. Now has been the next parties. Now has been the next step that is required. And i have to say that view does divide opinion. I shall throw it to my panel first and foremost, Peter Hitchens on this side situation about whether or not the ceasefire now calls for ceasefire is the next right step. Is it . Well, i dont think israel should ever have launched a bombardment of gaza. I think its one of the biggest mistakes theyve ever made. Its completely drawn attention away from the origin of this whole event, the horrible pogrom. On october the seventh when hamas burst into into israel and slaughtered innocent people. I dont know why they did it. Its dont know why they did it. Its completely counterproductive. It completely counterproductive. It wont destroy hamas. It will wont destroy hamas. It will inevitably , as always happens, inevitably, as always happens, when you bomb populated cities, it will kill innocent people and it will kill innocent people and it wont do any military good either. So im baffled as to why they ever started and if they would stop it, it cant be would only stop it, it cant be a good thing. And i speak as probably the most militantly pro israel youre pro israel person youre likely to of sundays. To meet in a month of sundays. So i just cannot see why they dont stop it. Well, ive got a lot to say in response to that. But before i do, your thoughts on i do, matt, your thoughts on firstly what just said. Firstly what peter just said. I mean, i dont always agree with peter. Weve certainly clashed on social media in the past. Ive interviewed him lots of times. But i think on this hes talking good sense and ill tell you why. I think hes talking good sense because i think was obvious early think it was obvious early hamass aim to lure israel into killing civilians and potentially actually to go in in this ground offensive as well. This ground offensive as well. Heaven knows how many Israeli Soldiers will lose their lives if they were to do that. We know that thousands of palestinians, many of them civilians, have already lost their lives as a consequence of the israeli bombing. And im not sure, even if they were successful in destroying the hamas military leadership , whether actually in leadership, whether actually in the long run, this isnt going to create significant more hate, if thats possible , within gaza. If thats possible, within gaza. And one further thing to say about this and this is not to denigrate for a single second from the mediaeval barbarism that we witnessed in israel on october the seventh. It was it was unspeakable. Im jewish. My grandparents were forced out of their houses in vienna from their houses in vienna from their from their apartments in vienna in the 1930 by hitler. So clearly, not just as a human clearly, notjust as a human being, but as a jew. I have enormous empathy for the horrors that we have witnessed in israel. But remember that the Political Leadership of hamas , Political Leadership of hamas, at least some of them, are cosily sitting in qatar. So israel isnt able to reach them. Im not sure that by bombing gaza into smithereens , israel is gaza into smithereens, israel is actually working in its own National Self interest. You see, i want to invite you guysin you see, i want to invite you guys in at home at this point because i know my audience well enough. I speak to you guys every day, and i can almost hear you shouting from your sofa. Many people will be shouting that they felt that every Single Person in the land with a brain cell would conclude and concede that actually what hamas did. I agree with you, theyre barbaric. Is horrendous. What happened on october the seventh . Its almost beyond comprehend in what they did. But because they did that, there will be many of my audience that say it is, of course, regrettable that the acts have to be taken in response. Yes, but you cant response. Yes, but you cant just what do you do . Just sit there and go, you know what . Youve come in, youve come in on your paragliders, youve burst through your fences, youve youve grabbed people in their you grabbed people their homes. You grabbed people off what . Off festivals. You know what . Hey, dont worry about it. Hey, just dont worry about it. Theyve got to do something. Theres no logic what you theres no logic in what you say. The bombing gaza, do you say. The by bombing gaza, do you think going to do think youre going to do anything hamas leadership anything to the hamas leadership or military or the hamas military organisation . Theyre deep underground. They have their own electricity their own electricity supplies, their own generators. So you do nothing. Generators. So you do nothing. They have their own water supplies. Their supplies. They have their own food. Will suffer in food. They will not suffer in the slightest from this. The people suffer will be people who will suffer will be the ordinary people gaza. The ordinary people of gaza. Ive been gaza. Its there ive been to gaza. Its there are lot people there are an awful lot of people there who constantly terrified by who are constantly terrified by the which come on the bombardments which come on their homes their on on their their homes because because hamas has provoked them. Hamas provoked this attack. They wanted the this attack. They wanted the israelis to respond in this way. And theyre delighted that they have done. Napoleon bonaparte gave a very good piece of advice, more than 200 years ago to who engage in in war. To people who engage in in war. Never interrupt your enemy while he making mistake. What he is making a mistake. What hamas a terrible mistake hamas did was a terrible mistake because they revealed true because they revealed the true face of a huge amount of the anti Israel Movement to a world which has used to believing which has got used to believing very much in in the anti israel propaganda, which is very common. Actually showed common. They actually showed that this is actually about that what this is actually about is people who hate israel and will hate israel. And will always hate israel. And until the world stops giving them aid and comfort, theyll carry on just hating israel, them aid and comfort, theyll carr attacking ust hating israel, them aid and comfort, theyll carrattacking it. Hating israel, them aid and comfort, theyll carr attacking it. That1g israel, them aid and comfort, theyll carr attacking it. That was rael, but attacking it. That was revealed in a way which had not been before. On october the been seen before. On october the 7th, thanks to israels bombardment of gaza, its now supped bombardment of gaza, its now slipped out of the news. All we talk about is the bombardment of gaza. Missed huge gaza. Theyve missed a huge opportunity their case. Opportunity to make their case. And also what is the military or political point of this . Israels survival does not depend on its ability to bomb blocks of flats in gaza. It depends ultimately on the support particularly support, particularly of the united the rest of United States, but the rest of the world. If it loses the western world. If it loses the western world. If it loses the support, the Political Support of the population of the western then it hasnt western world, then it hasnt got long to survive again. I think a lot of what peter saysis i think a lot of what peter says is almost unimpeachable. I says is almost unimpeachable. I think hes wrong on one thing, and that is that israel claims already. And i think it came quite early its quite early on in its bombardment to have killed at least possibly more of the least one, possibly more of the architects of the savage acts that we saw carried out in israel. So its not that hamas have completely got off scot free. I would say is that free. What i would say is that israel has been very successful, if thats the right word, in assassinating members of hamas over the years. And i think if it had taken a pause rather than rushed in, in the predictable way in which it has, and this has happened before, because hamas have committed atrocities in israel before and israel has responded in my view, heavy handedly before , if it had handedly before, if it had paused and reflected and enjoyed, if again , if thats the enjoyed, if again, if thats the right word, a degree of Global Support for it in its moment of crisis. I support for it in its moment of crisis. I think if were talking about pr battles, pr wars, it would be doing much better than it has at the moment. But again, i mean , i have to but again, i mean, i have to put this to you because i can justi put this to you because i can just i can hear my viewers and they will be saying everybody is familiar with happened on familiar with what happened on october 7th. It was so bad , october 7th. It was so bad, barbaric, and its easy for us to sit , shoot and go, yeah, to sit, shoot and go, yeah, i agree. They could have sat and they could have waited. They could have affected. And thats why joe biden, president of the United States, went there, showed went over there, showed solidarity but went over there, showed solida caution but went over there, showed solida caution on but went over there, showed solida caution on basis in urged caution on the basis in part of that america part of mistakes that america has before. You remember has made before. You remember 9 11. Can any of us forget 9 11. How can any of us forget it . World stood or much of it . The world stood or much of the world, the civilised world stood with america after those attacks. But then what did we see . We saw afghanistan, which turned into a 20 year nightmare. And we saw the iraq war, which was catastrophe, catastrophe was a catastrophe, catastrophe by and lost so by the west. And lost so countless civilians their lives. And it hasnt made the world a better place. And if israel is going to make the same mistakes that we have, then in the end , that we have, then in the end, israel suffers as well. Doing nothing is so often better than doing something stupid. Well , theres always this. Well, theres always this. The s0 hamas has attacked us. Something must be done. Well, one thing that must be done is to strengthen the defences of israel along that border very quickly and firmly in quickly and very firmly in anyway, or else that might anyway, or else where that might happen. People need to be happen. And people need to be accountable for that. And one of the why israels the reasons why israels politicians, are politicians, who frankly are not particularly with few exceptions , particularly impressive , particularly impressive, instead of doing something thoughtful , instead of doing something thoughtful, all instead of doing something thoughtful , all wanted to thoughtful, all wanted to placate the undoubted rage of their population against the vulnerability which had been exposed. One easy way of doing that was to bomb gaza. But it was easy. It didnt mean it was right. It didnt mean it was effective. So it is neither right nor is it effective. Bombing Populated Areas means you will kill innocent people. There is you may not intend to do so, but you will do so. So it will be laid to your account. You say. You say that you know the audience well , i would know the audience well, i would suggest that actually theres a diversity of opinions of people who watch gb news. But sure, i agree with you. Lots of people will be looking at what peter has said, looking at what i have said and be aghast what said and be aghast and what i say. They re say. Theyre asking you well, theyre asking you a simple question, a lot of my viewers getting in touch and viewers are getting in touch and asking to a simple asking me to ask you to a simple question. Theyre listening to what youre saying tonight and theyre