Unions are warning therell be thousands of job losses and the leader of the welsh conservatives, andrew davies, told gb news it will be disastrous for the country. Well, lets not forget people need food to survive and live on their everyday so their everyday existence, so were not talking about an industry that isnt industry here that isnt required to feed the nation. Required to feed the nation. We dont have farmers, and if we dont have farmers, we food. By the we dont have food. And by the governments figures, if governments own figures, if this ahead and this scheme goes ahead and changed, 5500 farmers will lose their livelihoods. 125,000 their livelihoods. 125,000 cattle will be lost in wales, 800,000 sheep and £200 million worth of Economic Activity will be lost. So it will be a devastating income impact on rural communities. The length and breadth of wales mps facing threats to their safety will get extra security as part of a new £31 million government package. £31 million government package. Concerns are growing about mps being targeted by protesters since the outbreak of the israel hamas war. The home office says the money will be used to increase private sector security provision and all elected representatives will have a dedicated, named Police Contact to liaise with and the high court in belfast has today ruled the uk governments controversial legacy act breaches human rights laws. The breaches human rights laws. The case was brought by the relatives of Northern Irelands troubles victims. The act troubles victims. The act includes a conditional amnesty for people suspected of committing offences in delivering the ruling, the judge said theres no evidence immunity will in any way contribute to reconciliation in the country. Northern ireland the country. 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Can the Prime Minister confirm whether he, too would welcome mr farage back into the tory fold . Mr back into the tory fold . Mr mr speaker , in our party we mr speaker, in our party we have a proud tradition of diversity and accepting everyone from every background and it is a proud record that puts labour to shame. Mr speaker. So so this , this diverse tory party just welcomed nigel farage, the Prime Minister. Two months, two months, two, two months ago, the Prime Minister said the tory party is a broad church. I welcome lots of people who want to subscribe to our ideals and our values. This is the same nigel farage who said he agreed with the bafic who said he agreed with the basic premise of Enoch Powells rivers of blood speech and bemoaned the influence of the jewish lobby. So is the Prime Minister simply too scared to stand up to the gaggle of tory mps who moonlight as gb presenters . Or does he genuinely presenters . Or does he genuinely think nigel farage says the ideals and values of the tory party oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, i think somebody might be slightly worried. You see, heres the worried. You see, heres the point. Heres the point. Back in 2015, actually , labour benefited 2015, actually, labour benefited hugely from ukip taking tory votes , but from thereafter votes, but from thereafter actually we were really, really hurting labour, hurting them in a really, really big way. And of course brexit, 4 million labour voters voted brexit. Yes, the very same brexit that you, mr starmer, wanted to overturn and force us into a second referendum. And heres the point when he says i agree with the bafic when he says i agree with the basic premise of Enoch Powells rivers of blood speech. Well, rivers of blood speech. Well, the basic premise was that uncontrolled Mass Immigration would lead to divided societies in our cities. That became unrecognisable and that that could lead to conflict. Well, have a look at what happened with the intimidation of members of Parliament Last week, and have at the facts, have a look at the facts, sir keir, there are many parts keir, that there are many parts of our major cities in england that now, frankly unrwa that are now, frankly unrwa recognisable and millions of your voters know that. And to say that i bemoan the influence of the jewish lobby . No, quite of the jewish lobby . No, quite the reverse. I said. The Jewish Community in north america had been massively successful in law , in business. And yes, they did campaign for what they wanted , campaign for what they wanted, but they did it within the law. They did it quite successfully. But i was never a subscriber to the madcap Conspiracy Theory that the jews run the world. But ill tell you who was. Yes, jeremy corbyn, the labour leader that you supported. Yes jeremy corbyn. And he went to a conference. Sir keir, where there was a palestinian flag on there was a palestinian flag on the chair of every labour mp and you and your own party, some sitting in the house of commons, some prospective parliamentary candidates who basically dont want exist. I tell you want israel to exist. I tell you what, if you want to have a fight with me over anti semitism any day of the week, now moving on to the really big story of the day, £31 million has been approved to up the security of members of parliament. Is this the right thing to do . Well, regular viewers to this show will know. Ive been predicting for a very, very long time that mps would soon start to understand what my life was like for over a decade. If i had had, if id not had chauffeur driven cars , if id not had close cars, if id not had close personal protection. I very much doubt id be sitting here talking to you. Now thats how vile and vicious and frankly, dangerous it was. What i was dangerous it was. What i was leading ukip. Dangerous it was. What i was leading ukip. Now some of these leading ukip. Now some of these chickens are coming home to roost for members of parliament. But but a lot of gb news gb news viewers are saying , hang on, we viewers are saying, hang on, we shouldnt spend any more money on these people because. Because on these people because. Because after all, its they , its they after all, its they, its they themselves through supporting irresponsible immigration policies that have led to the danger on our streets. Ive got to tell you folks, for once, im not with the majority of gb news viewers. I not with the majority of gb news viewers. I think unless we do more to protect our members of parliament, there are going to be more disasters ahead. And be more disasters ahead. And unless we know that becoming an mp, you know, is a relatively. Yes, of course you accept brickbats. But as a relatively safe thing to do, we will put off the kind of good, brave people that we need to stand for parliament to get into parliament, to turn this mess around. So you tell me im expecting a flurry of disagreements. Do mps need more disagreements. Do mps need more protection . Farage at gb news. Protection . Farage at gb news. Com im. Im joined by Mark Francois mp, conservative for rayleigh and wickford, and well get his security expert and consult. Mark, you were very consult. Mark, you were very close personal friend of a neighbouring member of parliament, sir david amess. Yes. Who was brutally murdered actually doing his job as a member of parliament, wasnt he . Yes. He was murdered by an islamist extremist whose name i cant even bring myself to. To pronounce ali harbi ali. Well, all right. But but but he said at his trial at the old bailey that he did it because of the way that david had voted in the house of commons. So so i still miss my friend. He was my best miss my friend. He was my best friend in parliament. So, you know, this is close to my heart, nigel. And its a shame in a way, that were even having to have this discussion. But i have this discussion. But i think we are where we are and we somehow need to get this balance right , because there are some right, because there are some people that would like to turn the houses of parliament into a fortress with razor wire and lasers and no visitors. And, you know, we could do that. But if we do that , i would argue the we do that, i would argue the bad guys are winning. Thats what they want. They want us to become even more remote than some people would argue. We already are. Already are. Well, or 2 labour voices well, 1 or 2 labour voices today suggesting, well, its very well work from home very easy. Well work from home and online. That would be and vote online. That would be surrender, wouldnt it . Would be one that absolutely would be one of the benefits of voting in person is you can get to ministers because theyve to ministers because theyve got to go the Division Lobby go through the Division Lobby as well. You know, if a well. So you know, if a ministers been hiding away on some issue for some constituency issue for a month when they go in to vote, they havent got service they havent got a Civil Service protection. Thats when you grab them. Thats how represent them. Thats how you represent your constituents. 31 million is worth spending, i believe it is. I discussed this earlier if i discussed this earlier today with roger hirst, whos the actually, the very proactive, actually, police fire and crime commissioner for essex , he commissioner for essex, he absolutely hes very hard over on on the security , not just of on on the security, not just of mps but of councillors as well. Mps but of councillors as well. Remember councillors get a lot of abuse and, and thought tom of abuse and, and i thought Tom Tugendhat , the security tugendhat, the security minister, it up very minister, summed it up very well today so brief quote. He today. So its a brief quote. He said this over the past few weeks weve disgraced weeks weve seen disgraced attempts to intimidate mps and undermine our democratic processes. That behaviour is a processes. That behaviour is a threat to our democracy and toxic to our society. And if i may say so, i think tom put it really well. Really well. Okay. Well get is perhaps a more, slightly more dispassionate view than mark could possibly have on an issue like this. No, no, no, like this. No, no, no, absolutely. And its one of the reasons wanted you here, reasons i wanted you here, because, youve seen because, you know, youve seen it. Very, very it. You felt it in a very, very big way. In fact, much of the country was deeply shocked. Yeah big way. In fact, much of the countritwas deeply shocked. Yeah big way. In fact, much of the countrit was de� to. Y shocked. Yeah big way. In fact, much of the countrit was de� to the locked. Yeah big way. In fact, much of the countritwas de� to the threat yeah big way. In fact, much of the countrit was de� to the threat now, when it comes to the threat now, the speaker talks about this, about the he talks about far right threats. And weve seen yeah, far right threats and they exist but they are a fraction. Are they not of the real threat. Why is no one talking about the real threat. Well its constantly a race, if you like, between the extremists, particularly from the islamic extreme sectors and the far right extremists and the far right extremists and the far right extremists and the far right extremists have increased certainly the few certainly over the last few years , and theyre being years, and theyre being considered as seriously by m15 as islamic extremists. As the islamic extremists. But having said that, nigel, just having said that. Yeah, if we look at it right now, we look at obviously a far wider and broader leaning and also a more vocal leaning by those that are particularly in support of palestine an and the anti semitism that is going on right now. And i take really from both of the things that youve both said so far yourself, nigel, youve been at the sharp end, youve been at the sharp end, youve been at the spearhead of actually having threats against. Exactly. And i think a lot of these mps and maybe the gb news as the gb news viewers are a little opposed to mps having security, but i think a lot of the mps will also know once they feel the hot air and the hot breath of a threat that comes close to them, they recognise how serious the implications are of what they vote necessarily in the houses of parliament. But at the same time, i think marks absolutely right. You cant overkill this. Now, if we looked at the 650 odd mps across the United Kingdom to provide Close Protection for every single one of them, you know how expensive is. Youre know how expensive it is. Youre looking somewhere. Looking probably somewhere. Circa 200 to £250 million a year to provide that security. So when we put that in context of the 31 million that has been allocated covid for this run up, particularly to a general election, to have election, and for us to have a Free Democratic society, weve got to be able to have mps that can out, can canvass, can can go out, can canvass, can talk without fear of intimidation or fear of threats being levelled against them, whether it be by, you know, as with amess or with jo cox with david amess or with jo cox for matter. The for that matter. But the intimidation is happening. Was a there was i mean, there was a there was a fundraising conservative dinner saw dinner in stoke on trent. I saw the other evening. Covered the other evening. I covered that theres that on monday evening. Theres been meeting somewhere that on monday evening. Theres been north meeting somewhere that on monday evening. Theres been north of meeting somewhere that on monday evening. Theres been north of england somewhere that on monday evening. Theres been north of england todaynhere in the north of england today thats stormed by thats been stormed by pro palestine demonstrators. Well i would put it to you. I understand what youre saying. Yeah, that the real cost of doing this fully would be massive. Yes. And the threat, the risk of threat , that the risk of threat, that assessment changes over time. But we may need to spend more as the point im making. Youre absolutely right. The group that has actually responsible for the risk assessment, and i have questions about the if you like, the quality of the risk assessments being undertaken is undertaken by a group called ravec, which is and vip executive is royalty and vip executive committee, which is within the home office. Now they will look committee, which is within the hothe office. Now they will look committee, which is within the hothe securitonw they will look committee, which is within the hothe security aroundy will look committee, which is within the hothe security around the ll look at the security around the members of the royal family. Theyll look at of the theyll look at members of the cabinet the opposition and cabinet and the opposition and any that potentially any other mp that potentially has them. Now has a threat against them. Now any kind of security has to be measured. It has to be balanced and youll know this yourself from your own experience. Nigel, from your own experience. Nigel, one the things, even one of the things, even as a provider of Close Protection to many former heads of state, many foreign families , i always foreign royal families, i always say theres caveat when say that theres a caveat when you introduce it, because it is a safety blanket that once theyve had it, removing it can actually heighten ones anxiety so that if it is for in a period of time, it has to be in for a penod of time, it has to be in for a period of time to deal with the specific threat that the individual is potentially facing. So blanket provide it to. So to blanket provide it to every mp. Okay. Okay. Okay. Would it be fair . To be fair, i dont think were calling for that. And what because and i know nigel, weve discussed this before and i know you have strong views because of your own experiences. I know that, but but if we get situation but if we get to a situation where we need a bodyguard, you know, with some spaghetti coming out ear as were going out of their ear as were going down, bread island, down, the bread island, sainsburys on a saturday morning with our trolley like anybody else. Then the bad guys are winning. I agree , because are winning. I agree, because im not sure i agree with that. Im not sure i agree with that. I know you dont, but but i just, i know you dont. But but but i just think, you know. So there are. Youre walking there you are. Youre walking down aisle. Youve got down the bread aisle. Youve got this heavy with you and there are people walking by it feeling resentful. And theyre thinking, resentful. And theyre thinking, if he gets one of those people, why dont i get one of those people . Well, i would say, is this no, no, i know with the level of threat against me was very high constant. Very high and constant. Yeah. And was assaulted yeah. And i was assaulted repeatedly, even with Close Protection. Yes. Still, people got yes. You know, eggs got to me. Yes. You know, eggs over the head, banners over the head. Yes. Of that. You know head. Yes. All of that. You know. I think i found. You know, but i think i found a balance with it, which was i didnt away from street didnt run away from street markets. No, i didnt run away from out campaigning. But markets. No, i didnt run away f|did out campaigning. But markets. No, i didnt run away f|did people mpaigning. But markets. No, i didnt run away f|did people thereining. But markets. No, i didnt run away f|did people there who, but markets. No, i didnt run away f|did people there who, ifut i did have people there who, if it turned could it really turned ugly, could help it really turned ugly, could he