To about net zero . A new film claims the green agenda is making britain cold and poor, and ill be speaking to the man behind the revelations. State of the nation starts now. Ill also be joined by malicious panel this evening. Former panel this evening. Former brexit party mep and current sister anunciata rees mogg , and sister anunciata rees mogg, and the author and broadcaster amy Nicole Turner. As always , i want Nicole Turner. As always, i want to hear from you. Its a crucial part of the programme. Email me mailmogg gbnews. Com. But now its youve all been its what youve all been waiting of the day waiting for. The news of the day with sanchez. With tatiana sanchez. Jacob, thank you very much. Jacob, thank you very much. The top stories from the gb newsroom. Lee anderson says he would still have defected to the reform uk party, even if he hadnt reform uk party, even if he hadnt been suspended from the conservatives. He became the partys first mp this morning after he lost the tory whip for claiming that islamists had got control of the mayor of london as recently as january. Mr anderson said it was not a proper political party. He now says reform will allow him to speak out on behalf of millions. Party leader richard tice says reform would aim to build a red wall in traditionally conservative constituencies. Related to announce that i have found that champion of the red wall for reform uk. Hes red wall for reform uk. Hes also coincidentally going to be reform uks first member of parliament in the house of commons. He is, of course, a person of great integrity, no nonsense and is the member of parliament in the county of nottinghamshire for ashfield. Please welcome mr lee anderson , an. The government has pledged over £117 million to safeguard mosques. Muslim schools and Community Centres over the next four years. The funding, unveiled today, follows the prime ministers promise to allocate more than £70 million to protect Jewish Community sites. The government condemned a recent rise in reported anti muslim and anti jewish hatred. Ministers say they expect the police to fully investigate all hate crimes. The investigate all hate crimes. The energy regulator, ofgem, is looking at ways to protect consumers from spiralling costs amid a Record Number of unpaid bills, around £3. 1 billion of debts are piling up as concerns grow over the high cost of household bills. Its after the price of energy in an average british home hit more than 3500 pounds a year last october. To other news, the princess of wales has apologised for an altered family photo released by kensington palace. Posting to kensington palace. Posting to social media, she admitted that like many amateur photographers , like many amateur photographers, she occasionally experiments with editing, adding she was sorry for any confusion it caused the mothers day image taken by the prince of wales was withdrawn by various global photo agencies after suspicions that a number of edits may have been made. And king charles has been made. And king charles has thanked the public for their support. In a video message to a service celebrating commonwealth day, the queen joined the prince of wales at Westminster Abbey for todays service. This years event drew on the theme of resilience against a backdrop of Health Worries in the family. Though he missed todays events, the king reaffirmed his commitment to the 56 member countries. As ive said before , for the as ive said before, for the commonwealth is like the wiring of a house and its people are energy and our ideas are the current that runs through those wires together and individually. We are strengthened by sharing perspectives and experiences. My belief in our shared endeavours and in the potential of our people remains a sure and strong as it has ever been. As it has ever been. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or you can go to gb screen. Or you can go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now its back to. Jacob. Back to. Jacob. Lee anderson matters. Why lee anderson matters. Why does he matter so much . Well, he encapsulate its almost personified the coalition that bofis personified the coalition that Boris Johnson brought together in 2019. What was that coalition it was a coalition of patriotic people who rejected Jeremy Corbyns approach to the nation. It was people who supported brexit, wanted immigration brought down and favoured low taxation. They supported the individual. Taxation. They supported the individual. They taxation. They supported the individual. They wanted taxation. They supported the individual. They wanted a society that was built from the bottom up and they came together and voted in their swathes across the country. For Boris Johnson, giving him the biggest majority the conservatives had since the election victory in 1987. And lee was at the heart of that. A former miner representing a mining constituency. And what was so interesting about the election result lost in many ways in the commentary on the red wall, was that this was a victory across the country. Indeed rarely had it been the case that england, at any rate, and wales had been more united in wanting a conservative government. Scotland with the snp being different in Northern Ireland, having its own political ecosystem. It was an amazing achievement which, as i say , lee achievement which, as i say, lee was such an important symbol of and now hes gone, hes left to go to reform. Now this matters because divided wings of politics lose. Bear in mind , in politics lose. Bear in mind, in 1983 and 1987, Margaret Thatcher won big a majorities in 1979 on a lower share of the vote. Why a lower share of the vote. Why was that . It was because the labour party had split the labour party had split the labour party had gone to the labour party had gone to the labour party had gone to the labour party in the sdp and they harmed each other. People who were going to vote conservative carried on. And this is the risk for those of us on the right, is that at the next election, what we all want to achieve will be made less likely because we will divide each others vote and therefore labour and the lib dems will pick up seats. And this is harmful, not just for those of us in the conservative party, but also for people in reform, because there is so much Common Ground between people like lee and me. Nigel farage and me, even richard tice are becoming into in a moment and many people who are within the conservative party, when i speak to conservative associations, the that want are the policies that they want are identical to those that lee anderson is advocating. Why are anderson is advocating. Why are they not getting through parliament . Then . What is the block , the obstacle, the block, the obstacle, the Sticking Point . That is preventing conservative policies coming through . Well, there are coming through . Well, there are problems. There are some people in the conservative party who attach more importance to european courts and foreign judgements and are basically still europhiles , and they have still europhiles, and they have certainly had an influence. Theres the house of lords , theres the house of lords, which would remain there even with a reform government and there are some International Agreements that we need to get out of. But fundamentally, the out of. But fundamentally, the conservative party needs to be adopting popular conservative policies and reuniting the right. What do i mean by that . Well, bringing back those people who are thinking of staying at home, those people who are thinking of voting for reform into the Electoral Coalition that Boris Johnson brought together, and that means showing that deal with that we can deal with immigration, showing that were serious reducing the size serious about reducing the size of the state and not just cutting individual taxes , but cutting individual taxes, but cutting individual taxes, but cutting taxation. We need to show that we want to reap the fruits of brexit so that we get the benefits that by failing to pass the retained eu law bill in full, we are not getting in the way that we should and that we can control our borders securely, not just in terms of migration , but that we are migration, but that we are forthright and safe in defence. Thats what conservatives believe in. But were not putting it forward strongly enough and therefore we are finding that people like lee are making decisions that actually make all of this harder , because make all of this harder, because we know reform wont win the election, but they can stop. Election, but they can stop. They can make it harder for the conservatives. And this means that what all of us want becomes less likely. Thats why i think lee made a mistake in going. I think he should have stayed within the conservative party to bolster the forces, arguing for what he believes in. But i also think the conservative party made a mistake in taking the whip away from him. You dont take away the whip for one slip of the a clumsy phrase, of the tongue. A clumsy phrase, as lee himself called it, from somebody who is one of your most powerful and forthright advocates as ever. Let me know your thoughts. Mel. Margaret gb news. Com but im joined now by the man of the hour himself, the leader of reform, richard tice, and the contributing editor of novara media, michael walker, richard , let me come to you richard, let me come to you first. Youre grinning from ear to ear. You must be quite happy today. Its been a very good day. Youve just eloquently made the case, of course, for proportional representation , proportional representation, because you believe in competition, jacob. And the great thing about competition is that people perform that it makes people perform better and the issue that has gone wrong for the conservative party is that people from a wide variety place their trust in the manifesto of 2019, that it would be delivered. And if you say to people youre going to do something and then you dont do it all with regard to lawful immigration, do exactly the opposite. Surprised if opposite. Dont be surprised if people i like the people say, i like the competition over there. Thats where to. And thats where im off to. And thats whats happened. Competition in there is competition in politics. Always is politics. There always is competition. But competition for ideas. But proportional representation means the means that you always get the centre ground. You always get a stitch up. Look what happens in germany and in ireland where the big parties come together to squeeze out. But it doesnt happen in scotland and wales where we have pr and actually it works very well. Youve got so actually well. And youve got so actually that completely undermines your case. Works case. Youre saying it works well wales. Well in wales. Well, where else got Good Government . That wales . What government . Is that wales . What reforms advocating what wales uses to uses pr and wales chooses to vote for labour so far. Lets see what happens. But the point is pr is adopted all over the world and you get not in the United States and in in the United States and not in this country. Gives us clarity of and it gives us clarity of leadership. It also gives you is but what it also gives you is a much lower voter turnout, because every vote, sadly, because not every vote, sadly, is equal. It does. The is equal. It does. Jacob, the numbers clear. The average numbers are clear. The average turnout pr is about 10 turnout with pr is about 10 higher. Another million higher. Thats another 3 Million People engaged in the people gloriously engaged in the Democratic People gloriously engaged in the democra selective. Looking at very selective. Looking at the get high the figures, we get high turnouts this country. Get turnouts in this country. We get about normally about 65, 66. We normally get over the only election below over 70. The only election below that really by any margin is 2001, when were down at 59. So if you exclude 2001, were normally at about 70. There might be a bit of inflation there, but well check that data. But the point is that competition is a good thing. And its very good people have competition is a good thing. And its very theyve people have competition is a good thing. And its very theyve got eople have competition is a good thing. And its very theyve got a ple have competition is a good thing. And its very theyve got a broadera now got theyve got a broader range of to debate, more range of things to debate, more or of what you want. Or less of what you want. If the conservatives lose the next and you get keir next election and you get keir starmer in, which what you starmer in, which is what you can ive said can do, as ive said before, frankly, starmer, frankly, vote tory, get starmer, vote get reform. Vote reform, get reform. Saying is in the red what im saying is in the red wall, leigh is going to be our champion and we going to our champion and we are going to our ambition to replace the ambition is to replace the tories this time round in the red wall. Big job. I think in red wall, but i think in the red wall, not the country at large. Not in the country at large. Well started with the red well we started with the red wall party. Starting the red were starting in the red wall. But its the most important because you only you only seat majority only got an 80 seat majority because the wall. Because you won in the red wall. And what think were seeing and what i think were seeing with the conservative party is that such Broad Coalition that its such a Broad Coalition that its such a Broad Coalition that its such a Broad Coalition that its not able to hold that together. Are you just a group of disgruntled havent disgruntled people who havent got tory party . So got on in the tory party . So lees lost the whip. You wanted to be mayor london . To be mayor of london . I supported you, for did very supported you, for you did very kindly. I thought youd kindly. Yes. I thought youd been it been excellent at it. Is it just. A bit chippy just. Youre a bit chippy because havent got what you because you havent got what you wanted. So youve gone off in a sulk like a four year old. But competition is a great thing. Weve got good ideas. Your rejection . Is your motivation rejection . Is your motivation rejection . Problem is with the look, the problem is with the conservative now conservative party is its now full democrats and full of social democrats and what socialists. And what i call socialists. And there very few real there are very few real conservatives who understand the philosophy and philosophy of conservatism. And you well, its you cant just say, well, its only you know, people are only us. You know, people are only us. You know, people are only going for us. Only ever going to vote for us. No, you dont do a good job, no, if you dont do a good job, youre going to get fired. Youre going to get punished. And of and thats the joy of competition. Its like a plumber. Have a plumber plumber. If you have a plumber that doesnt fix the plumbing, youre different plumber. But thats what in but thats what happens in elections, the elections, obviously. But the conservative party has been the base and base for conservative ideas, and that people remaining within it ensure has leadership ensure that it has leadership that what that they like, and that what youve much more youve done is made it much more likely party will likely a Hard Left Party will get in. Conservative principle a core conservative principle is power of competition, is the power of competition, drives standards and drives drives up standards and drives down costs, and we are providing serious competition that the conservative party now doesnt like. Because were good at what we weve got a great set of we do. Weve got a great set of policies and more and more people hear about us. People as they hear about us. They , thats i like. They think, thats what i like. Now got one seat in youve now got one seat in parliament. Not doing parliament. Youre not doing that well hang on, youve that well. Well hang on, youve got parliament that well. Well hang on, youve grdefection. Parliament a defection. Given that well, given the given that the party, given the conservative party, given that party that the conservative party laughed years ago laughed at me three years ago for setting up reform uk, for even setting up reform uk, and actually were polling and now actually were polling only of last only 5 behind you as of last actual votes. How did you do in kingswood . How you do in how did you do in wellingborough . Did do how did you do in werochdale . Gh . Did do in rochdale . In kingswood and wellingborough so give wellingborough we were so give or polling range. So or take the polling range. So were progress. The were making progress. Not the terrifying jacob, terrifying thing for you, jacob, is people still havent is that people still havent heard of reform, but already were really well were doing really well in the polls. Were going up, the polls. Were going up, the conservatives going down conservatives are going down because youre not performing. Thats democracy works. Thats how democracy works. To be winning, you dont seem to be winning, though, byelections though, and those byelections are opportunity. Sdp, are a real opportunity. The sdp, when were new and nobody when they were new and nobody had heard of them, managed to win elections. But you cant win by elections. But you cant get voters. Thats because of the dreadful first the flaws of your dreadful first past system, past the post system, which protects. Protects the duopoly. It protects the monopoly type situation. Sdp, with the same same electoral system could win by elections, huge tory elections, overturning huge tory majorities. But you cant do that. You seem to have a natural ceiling. I dont think were a natural ceiling. We seem to be breaking through spring. Michael owen, whos been very patient at internal patient looking at the internal ways but ways of the tory party but do you broadly the you broadly accept the proposition divide proposition that if you divide wide wings of the electoral part, you you lose . And that labour suffered very heavily from this in the 80s, in some w