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GBN Breakfast July 3, 2024

Appropriate to bring your children into the office . Now, why would that be a good idea . Children in the office let us know your views and in sport , know your views and in sport, only me. Im the only child in the office today. By the way, in sport this morning. Last night, three out of five premier league games ended one one. Brighton hove albion are officially the most Successful Club in the country financially. That is. And adam peaty is back. Country financially. That is. And adam peaty is back. Im ready for the olympics morning. Whilst theres quite a bit of rain across northern parts today, its better news further south if its drier and brighter weather youre after. Ill have the details shortly. So, leading the news this morning, the Prime Minister demanding answers from israel after seven aid workers, there were three british nationals amongst them were killed by an israeli missile strike. Yes. James henderson, whos 33, and john chapman, 57, both of whom are believed to have served in the royal marines, were named alongside james kirby , a former Army Rifleman and sniper marksman , as the three sniper marksman, as the three britons who had died. Britons who had died. Now, israels now facing questions about how all of this happened as the World Charity kitchen had alerted the Israeli Defence force to the route they were travelling on. It marked its cars with logos on the roof as well. As well. While Political Correspondent at the spectator, james heale joins us now. Good to see you this morning, james. I mean, this morning, james. I mean, this is absolutely horrific, isnt it . And of course, the Prime Minister now demanding answers. Absolutely. And i think its a testament to how serious this is, that weve seen such a striking response from the uk government and not just the government, opposition too, government, the opposition too, with releasing with keir starmer releasing a statement this statement condemning this in very words. Think the very strong words. I think the nature of this, as you were saying there, the fact that the world central, central kitchen was on convoy, was marked out on the convoy, the that there are some the fact that there are some reports suggesting that there were strikes were three different strikes involved the involved in this, that the people moved one people involved moved from one vehicle to the third. There was three strikes. The cars were a mile and a half apart. I mean, they didnt just have one explosion that that affected all three vehicles. So i thats makes this i mean, thats what makes this really sinister. And the fact that have been were that there have been were talking this , but theres that there have been were taliodd this , but theres that there have been were taliodd other this , but theres that there have been were taliodd other strikes ut theres that there have been were taliodd other strikes that1eres that there have been were taliodd other strikes that have 20 odd other strikes that have happened this year that happened so far this year that we talk about that. Its we dont talk about that. Its just how does an accident, so called like that, so called accident like that, like happen that is the question. Absolutely. And they would have discussed their route with the idf beforehand. So theyd the idf beforehand. So theyd had advance knowledge of of had advance knowledge of all of this. Think for these this. And i think for these reasons, i think one of the its the reason why were going to see of debate about this see a lot of debate about this in westminster today, because see a lot of debate about this in werwhyister today, because see a lot of debate about this in werwhy the today, because see a lot of debate about this in werwhy the israeli because thats why the israeli ambassador was hauled last ambassador was hauled in last night, people really night, because people are really concerned about this. And obviously that theyll obviously the fact that theyll be incidents be going other incidents unreported well. No unreported as well. And its no surprise theres also suggestions going to suggestions that its going to really affect supply of aid really affect the supply of aid going because this convoy really affect the supply of aid goinheadingzause this convoy really affect the supply of aid goinheadingzause tijust nvoy really affect the supply of aid goinheadingzause tijust docked was heading it only just docked on and it was on monday night and it was heading rafah provide sort heading to rafah to provide sort of starve off the starvation there. Food have there. The food could have provided meals. I provided a million meals. So i think thats to be one think thats going to be one real impact of this. And real world impact of this. And in westminster, debate is in westminster, the debate is going about is israel going to be about is israel breaching International Law in any areas. I think any different areas. So i think thats going thats what were going to see in terms the next 48 hours. In terms of the next 48 hours. As you say, i mean, and as you say, i mean, again, to add to the whole tragedy, fact a full tragedy, the fact that a full shipload of food turns back to cyprus nobody of it, cyprus and nobody avails of it, it doesnt happen. And are concerns, and there are concerns, though, there . Not that the though, are there . Not that the hamas benefits from lot of hamas benefits from a lot of this food, that they hijack it, they steal it, intercept it. Yes, there it. Yes, there is. It. Yes, there is. And theres also the way in which they have been have a track record of using certain aid agencies to try and advance an agenda, also trying to incidents like trying to exploit incidents like this as a way of sort of sowing up dissent and encouraging support in these areas. And whats so striking about this attack just the fact attack as well is just the fact that this charity had very that this charity had a very Good Relationship the Good Relationship with the israeli to other Israeli Forces compared to other ones, instance, whove ones, for instance, whove been quite so think quite critical, etc. So i think that for reason, its all that for that reason, its all the more damaging to have such an aid agency, which has enjoyed an aid agency, which has enjoyed a Good Relationship with the israeli authorities, now having to so i think to be turned back. So i think that going to really that thats going to really complicate going complicate the on going relationship the relationship between the netanyahu and these netanyahu government and these kind charities. Kind of charities. Netanyahu described kind of charities. As netanyahu described kind of charities. As a netanyahu described kind of charities. As a tragic yahu described kind of charities. As a tragic error. Described kind of charities. As a tragic error. Butdescribed this as a tragic error. But there are also questions this morning that this is deliberate targeting of aid workers. And thats certainly the thoughts of the ceo of the world central kitchen , who said that food is kitchen, who said that food is being used by the idf as a weapon of war. Absolutely. And the israelis will obviously come back and say that, you know, often this is used as a sort of an agenda for hamas as you were saying there. Eamonn, i think it really just shows which how many shows in which how many civilians really the civilians are really on the front is that front line here, which is that theres minority of different theres a minority of different combatants this, combatants involved in all this, but theyre ones really but theyre the ones really paying but theyre the ones really paying price. And thats why paying the price. And thats why youve about mass starvation in warning about mass starvation in places like rafah. Look at of the faces you look at some of the faces involved there and these fatalities, and we about fatalities, and we talk about civilian involvement in all of this. Know, people this. And, you know, people who are people doing are really good people doing this. I was if i was this. I mean, if i was if i was somebody who was asking me, do you want to be volunteer in you want to be a volunteer in helping out on all of this . No way. Absolutely no way. What does to put your your does it take to put your your life the for this sort life on the line for this sort of thing . Well, three very brave men, three veterans who are no one of them actually went over last month. Wed only been there a few weeks himself. James, what do you think happens next in terms of british israeli relations . Do this is relations . Do you think this is a turning point in this conflict . I its a very worrying i think its a very worrying flashpoint from of flashpoint from the view of british israeli relations. The ambassador was hauled in yesterday for a half an hour phone call, sorry for in person conversation. And i think that shows previously has shows that previously israel has been sort of close to the been very sort of close to the uk government terms of its uk government in terms of its few allies can count on few allies that can count on around world. And i think around the world. And i think the big debate now is going to be about the discussion around International Law. And the foreign received Foreign Office has that received advice israel has breached advice that israel has breached that it has, for that law . If it has, for instance, that would have obvious ramifications, the obvious ramifications, as the telegraph today telegraph reports today on things intelligence sharing things like intelligence sharing and sort of cooperation at different so i think different levels. So i think thats to be big thats going to be the big political debate, because the uk has moved to the has obviously moved to the position of calling for a ceasefire. But still remains ceasefire. But it still remains an israel. And if the if an ally of israel. And if the if the kind of incidents that were seeing on a more frequent level, politicians going politicians are obviously going to public backlash, to respond to a public backlash, and talking to mps, and i think that talking to mps, thats something thats really coming that see coming across is that people see this a lot self regarding, this a lot of self regarding, decent minded and get decent minded people and get pretty by it. So pretty horrified by it. So i think it going to be a big think it is going to be a big issue. Office issue. And the Foreign Office has conflicting advice on has given conflicting advice on whether received whether it has received that legal and i suspect legal guidance. And i suspect that were under a lot of pressure the few to pressure in the next few days to release publish that release it and publish that guidance full. Guidance in full. Mean, how come, absolutely. I mean, how come, what an action aid , that what is an action of aid, that that the idf are informed about it openly and that they go into great detail and say, these are our cars, this is our route. This is where well be. And yet these vehicles are individually targeted. Now, that is some mistake. If that is a mistake or it is a deliberate action or it is the sort of action that is going on without this man knowing about it. Netanyahu, it knowing about it. Netanyahu, it is embarrassing. Absolutely no doubt more than embarrassing. I mean, its again again, its murder. And it just will be interesting to see what the repercussions will be. Absolutely. I can only see it reducing support for israel. And they have to really make sure that its either malicious or careless or wilful. And so i think this is going to be a really big issue and test for uk israeli relations. Okay, james, thanks much okay, james, thanks very much indeed. To get indeed. Were going to get reaction viewers and reaction from viewers and listeners, well get you listeners, and well get you back well well talk about back and well well talk about what are saying about this what folk are saying about this for moment. Thank you very for the moment. Thank you very much thank you. Gb news much indeed. Thank you. Gb news gb it . What is it . What is it . At gb news. Com. Gb views at gb news. Com. Gb views at gb news. Com. No, its not gbviews gbnews. Uk views gbviews gbnews. Uk you said views gb views gb news. Com have your views on the news and well be here to reflect those throughout the program this morning. I just believe this is sinister. I dont believe this is an accident. And this is to calculated these cars were spread out over 1. 6 miles each was individually hit. No one has said weather from the skies or missiles on the ground, or from a tank, or from , handheld a tank, or from, handheld devices or whatever. No one has said exactly how these vehicles were struck, what they were struck with. So weve got to get details on that as well. A new landmark study from the United States has revealed vaping can increase the risk of Heart Failure by almost a fifth. Yes, researchers have tracked 175,000 participants and found that those who use e cigarettes are 19 more likely to develop Heart Failure. Heart failure. Well, thats a big study. So is it time to finally crack down on vaping . Joining us now, the director general of the uk vaping industry association, thats john dunne , whos a thats john dunne, whos a regular on the program and someone who nearly died from vaping, ewan fisher. But john, first of all, you know , im first of all, you know, im getting a bit fed up talking to you, john, to be quite truthful, youre always being called to defend whats going on here. This seems to be a pretty comprehensive, bought comprehensive, report bought into this. You must be concerned at some level about this. Well, first of all, you need to take a look at what the report actually says. And the researchers point out themselves that this does not show a causal link to heart disease. This is link to heart disease. This is purely an observational study of data. It is not a clinical trial, the data that we have seen from Clinical Trials actually says reverse the british heart foundations veritas study, for instance, shows that, significant improvements to vascular function within a month of switching from cigarettes to vapes. But nobody is saying that vapes. But nobody is saying that vapes are 100 safe. If you dont smoke, you shouldnt be vaping. But what we do know is that if you smoke, youre more than likely going to die from from doing that. So moving to from doing that. So moving to vaping is far less harmful for your health. But its not 100 risk free. Nothing in this world that we do is 100 risk free. Well , you that we do is 100 risk free. Well, you and you heard that, john, saying that its a lot safer than smoking, but you say you almost died from vaping. Yeah. So i had a very bad obviously reaction to vaping, that nearly ended my life. And so lucky to be here. So now im trying to spread the awareness and try and stop people, especially young people, vaping because theres not really much need to do it. Obviously, unless you smoke , smoking beforehand you smoke, smoking beforehand and switching as , john just and switching over as, john just said, people are getting obviously Many Health Problems from smoking, which we all know about because its been around for many years now, and a lot of tests have came forward and shown whos say shown that. But whos to say that the line, vaping isnt that down the line, vaping isnt going to have the exact same effects smoking does nowadays. If you started vaping at underage , didnt you . Did you underage, didnt you . Did you find that it was quite easy to get hold of a vape . Yeah, it was so simple. Yeah, 100. It was so simple. And i think its like that all around the country, like, i in my School Uniform when i could even my School Uniform when i could ever. I went into the shop one time by myself in my School Uniform, and ive also been in my uniform, and i could ask people go into the shop for people to go into the shop for me, and no one batted an eyelid. Point of john, from your point of view, are sales going . I view, how are sales going . I mean, how would look at the mean, how would you look at the overall business of vaping and tell us how popular it is . Is it growing in popularity . Has it levelled out . Is it declining . No, absolutely. Vaping continues to be, extremely popular in this country. In fact , its now the most successful way that adults quit smoking , way that adults quit smoking, its twice as effective as all of the other methods of Smoking Cessation products that are out there, but , you know, as you cessation products that are out there, but, you know, as you and said, there is a problem with young people getting these products, but they are illegal for young people to buy. Anybody under the age of 18 should not be getting access to these products. And this is one of the reasons why weve highlighted many things to the government, looking at things like licensed , looking at things like licensed, for instance, vape retailers for instance, of vape retailers to that only responsible to ensure that only responsible people are selling these products, but also looking at at increasing the fines to up to £10,000 per instance to anybody selling these products to young people. These are an age gated aduu people. These are an age gated adult products, and thats what theyre designed for, and thats who they should be sold to you. And do you think that we risk becoming a nanny state if we were to ban vaping entirely . It were to ban vaping entirely . It does increase the risk of Heart Failure. According to this study. But so does junk food. So does, you know, things like alcohol. And we wouldnt think to ban those. To ban those. Yeah. No, 100. I do understand where youre coming from , like if you were to ban from, like if you were to ban vaping and then obviously Everything Else that also can cause sort of problems , cause these sort of problems, then people would be looking at that also. So we cant get rid of everything that causes significant Health Problems of everything that causes significa wed alth problems of everything that causes significa wed be| problems of everything that causes significa wed be foreverms of everything that causes significa wed be forever banning because wed be forever banning

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