Like this will not happen again. Humza yousaf says he will not resign as scotlands first minister, ahead of a crucial test of his leadership next week. He says that as a minority government, his party will need to make some concessions as it negotiates with other parties. Its after the collapse of the snps power sharing deal with the greens yesterday. But humza yousaf says hell fight on. I fully intend to, not just win that vote, but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people , on the priorities of the people, like, for example, investing in affordable housing. So theres all that political game playing happening from the opposition. It will not be taking part. It will be getting, of course, on with the job. And when the vote comes, i fully intend to win. The Foreign Office has summoned the Russian Ambassador after a british man was allegedly recruited as a russian spy. 20 year old dylan earl has been charged with conducting hostile activity in the uk to benefit russia. Hes accused of benefit russia. Hes accused of masterminding an arson plot on london businesses. Masterminding an arson plot on london businesses. Four masterminding an arson plot on london businesses. Four other london businesses. Four other men were also charged in connection with the same investigation. Those are the top investigation. Those are the top stories. And for all the latest do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Common alerts. Now, though, its back to. Patrick. To. Patrick. Youve all heard of the evil hook handed hate cleric abu hamza, the terrorist scumbag allowed to prowl the streets of london, preach at mosques and live in a £1 million council flat . Well meet at rangzieb ahmed. So this guy was osama bin ladens top operative in europe. He was convicted of directing terrorism. He was jailed in 2008 for plotting mass murder and was caught with a book of terror contacts written in invisible ink and a rucksack that contained traces of explosives. Its emerged that this guy has received almost £1 million in legal aid, reportedly, and could. Now. Are you ready . Yep. Could. Now. Are you ready . Yep. He could be a free man by june because hes taken part in a de radicalisation class and now hes up for parole. Do we hes up for parole. Do we remember how deradicalisation classes have gone in the past . Classes have gone in the past . What the usman khan managed to convince everyone that he was no longer a rabid jihadi. He stabbed two young people to death. In the wake of that , death. In the wake of that, convicted terrorists whod been released were made to sit lie detector tests. Can we guess what happened . Four of them were immediately sent back to prison because shock, horror , they because shock, horror, they hadnt because shock, horror, they hadnt really been de radicalised. Should we just take a little look at some of ahmeds back catalogue . Well, according to reports, he was arrested in indian kashmir. Allegedly fighting for the group harkat ul mujahideen. In jail , harkat ul mujahideen. In jail, he was reportedly sent money by syed omar sheikh. The british extremist who went on to murder the journalist daniel pearl. After spending seven years in an indian jail without charge , he indian jail without charge, he was eventually set free in may 2001. Now he was born in rochdale, but split his life between lancashire and pakistan. His brother said that he used to keep a kitchen knife under his pillow, and essentially described him as behaving like a complete lunatic. He apparently went back to pakistan to quote further his career as an international terrorist. He was international terrorist. He was eventually sent to prison in britain, and in 2021, a previous parole attempt was dismissed after he falsely accused Prison Guards of being racist. After they ordered him to obey covid social distancing rules. In 2020, a damages claim he brought against m15 and m16 for colluding in his torture by pakistani intelligence was thrown out in 2019. He moaned when his mp3 player was confiscated, despite apparently it being against sharia law. He tried to get a £45 a week job in a prison based call centre. Pfison a prison based call centre. Prison bosses have also blocked his bid as well for working in the old cafe area, so he apparently was furious that he was denied a job baking cakes and pizzas for inmates. As recently as september 2022, he was deemed to be too dangerous for release. But now hes gone through a de Radicalisation Programme and maybe hes okay. Now, if anybody from the parole board thinks that osama bin ladens main man in europe will ever be safe to walk the streets, then i think they need to be sent for a head scan. Now a lot of these jihadi lunatics seem to be desperate to meet their maker, dont they . Why dont we just help them get there . In some cases, when it comes to some fanatical islamists , i think we should be islamists, i think we should be more in favour of execution instead of parole. Lets get the instead of parole. Lets get the thoughts on my panel this evening. I am joined by, ex bbc anditv evening. I am joined by, ex bbc and itv political chief john sergeant. Ive got apprentice finalist and entrepreneurjoana finalist and entrepreneur joana jaflue finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue and of course the journalist and broadcaster alex armstrong. Alex, ill start with you on this. I mean, this guy surely will never be safe to walk the streets. No, i dont think anyone believes the de Radicalisation Programmes actually work, do they . I programmes actually work, do they . I mean, youve shown evidence of that, patrick, that people go on to recommit crimes, even if theyve gone through prison, which is meant to be a deterrent and quite frankly , i deterrent and quite frankly, i hope the parole board make the right decision and leave him where he is. If i had it my way, patrick, i would have him deported from the country. I dont think id go as far as executions , if im being honest executions, if im being honest with you, for bad speech. Lets put it that way. For, for, you know, extremist speech. But i would say to people who come to this country and are born here and want to go to somewhere where their views are going to be, perhaps socialised and respected, they should they should be left out of the country. John, ive just got in my notes here. You think its quite difficult. Is this a legal position . You cant just say hes because hes horrible. We cant have him around. I mean, he did want to kill us, john, but its not. We dont decide these things on the basis of what do we think about this guy as he is a nice man, a good man, a bad man . No, hes obviously a dreadful man. All sorts of ways. His record shows that. But he was born in rochdale. Hes gone through a system and youve got to make sure that system is allowed to continue. For if you say, well, continue. For if you say, well, now what we do, just take one look at this guy and say , no, look at this guy and say, no, dont like him, dont like his. He could be locked up indefinitely. Like what hes done. No but youve got to have some process, thats all. If the parole board believes they did last time, it wasnt that long ago when they said no, he shouldnt be released. I agree with you. Im as sceptical as everyone about this. Do you de radicalisation plan . Oh, yeah. What does that mean . You say over and over again , im not say over and over again, im not that keen on on, you know, islam gone off the old jihad stuff. Yeah. You know, ive gone off. Im. I feel better now about, you know, the, the king and being here. No you cant do that. And the parole board have got a very difficult job. But theyve got to decide. Theyve got to decide. Look, okay. Stay in. But what you cant do, we found this with internment in northern ireland. I was a reporter in northern ireland. Internment was brought in and the whole thing turned out to be a bit of a shambles. Nobody knew how long theyd be kept. It went on for a long time. It seemed unfair. It built up recruits for the ira in those years. This would bring up more recruits. Would bring up more recruits. Youve got to say, look, we are protecting our values , however protecting our values, however much it may cost. Whatever the difficulties are, weve got to believe in the law. Weve got to believe in the law. Weve got to believe in the law. Weve got to believe in a system otherwise , believe in a system otherwise, its a council of despair. Joanna de radicalisation, doesit joanna de radicalisation, does it work , i dont believe in does it work, i dont believe in de radicalisation, but i believe in rehabilitation. So i think that when it comes to criminals across the board, i think that people can be rehabilitated. If youve been a thief in the past, maybe youve grown up in a really bad area. Whatever your life circumstances , maybe you life circumstances, maybe you can be shown that you can be a better person that can integrate into society. Whereas where i draw the line, is anybody whos, actually been proven to have been involved in terrorism, never mind somebody who was basically, you know , al qaedas basically, you know, al qaedas best mate, osama bin ladens best mate, osama bin ladens best mate. Thats a completely different kettle of fish, paedophiles, rapists, people like that. I just think that you should keep them well, well, well away from from society. And i dont think those type of people can change their minds, whereas with other people that are criminals, i think that you can rehabilitate them. And in a lot of cases, actually prison makes people worse. Criminals. Yeah. I mean, you had mitzi on this show. I think you had i mean, you had mitzi on this show. I think you had him on a couple of weeks ago. And it seems like the young mans learned from his experience, and hes apologised, and hopefully hell be a better person from his experience in prison and he has been rehabilitated. I agree with you and john. I dont think you can rehabilitate ideological. Sort of. Im stuck in my ways. These are really extreme views. I mean, why should we have to live with this is the thing. So its all very well and good saying, oh, you know, maybe we should give this guy a chance. But if we give this guy a chance, other people might die. No, i dont think its so much giving him a chance. I mean, what, you have a chance of. And whats the point of presumably releasing someone into the outside world is you follow them, you find out who theyre getting in touch with, you find out what what lines of what al qaeda supporters are there. Who are they going to . What are they doing . Never forget that. You know, someone may appear to be released, but of course, someone like him is always there. Always keep an eye on him. Theyre still a risk , on him. Theyre still a risk, you know, look at that attack that you showed a clip of, you know, on the, on the bridge. It can still happen. But what i will say, actually, is that where i draw the line in terms of deradicalisation is children. So i do believe that in the case of, for example, Shamima Begum, i think thats a completely different case. But this is a grown man that was actively planning things himself rather than, you know, Shamima Begum. Than, you know, Shamima Begum. So youd so youd, youd keep this guy locked up. Yeah. But youd let Shamima Begum walk the streets. I wouldnt let her walk the streets. I think that she should still be behind bars, but i think that its. Youve got a higher likelihood of actually de radicalizing her in the sense that she was radicalised as a small vulnerable. Well not small, but she was a teenager as a child, basically, and groomed in that situation. Youve got a much stronger argument for shamima than what youve got with this guy. Yeah. Theres another point about this. Of course, the prison authorities usually like to give somebody some hope so they can control these prisoners. If you say , look, prisoners. If you say, look, whatever happens, youre not going to see the light of day. Going to see the light of day. This is it now, forever. It does mean that the prison authorities cant then say, look, you play your cards right. Well do this. Its a question of whether or not you would have faith , alex, not you would have faith, alex, that he will be properly monitored. On the outside. There was a case of the stratum attacker. That guy was basically under 24 hour surveillance. And what happened was he managed to run into, i think it was a boot or Something Like that, and just grab a knife. And i think nobody died apart from he was shot in the end, of course. But, you know , theres a question of know, theres a question of whether or not the authorities can ever actually keep them safe. So yeah, no, i think we all understand that we havent got the resources in this country to monitor every Single Person that we release from prison , despite whether theyre prison, despite whether theyre dangerous or not or radicals or whatever it is. What really worries me is the prison system is seeing a massive rise in people leaving prison as extremists, so they might go in for petty crimes, but they are now being radicalised by people like this man inside prisons, and theyre coming out and committing those terrorist offences. So how do we terrorist offences. So how do we deal with this in the prison system . I dont have an answer for that, but i hope theres someone smart enough out there that does more prisons. Yeah, yeah, thats not a bad idea, john. I yeah, thats not a bad idea, john. I agree with you. More prisons i agree. Yeah. More prisons i agree. Yeah. Yeah. Well were going to need it. I mean, he has another aspect of life where its not its not kept up with rapid population growth, has it. You cant not have more prison support, more people. But anyway, there we go. Look now. Still to come. Thank you very much. Good start, by the way. Still to come. We do talk about humza yousaf. Yes. His reign as first minister of scotland is hanging by a thread. I think thats been quite generous actually. But next we will discuss the good news that king charles is returning to public facing duties. So the mail on sundays editor at large, charlotte griffiths. She joins me live in the studio. And were also going to be talking to a former butler as well, just trying to get that personal thing. What will the king really be feeling like at the moment . Make sure you stay tuned to Patrick Christys welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight on gb news now, Buckingham Palace have announced that the king will return to pubuc that the king will return to public facing duties this week. Shall we have a quick look through the statement . Shall we . So Buckingham Palace gave the update on the kings return to pubuc update on the kings return to public facing duties in that Statement Today , they said it is Statement Today, they said it is too early to say for how much longer his treatment will continue. It added that doctors were very encouraged, though, by the progress made so far. They remain positive about the kings continued recovery. The type of cancer has not been publicly disclosed, but the kings medical team are sufficiently pleased with the progress made so far that the king is now able to resume a number of public facing duties. So hes going to be going to a Cancer Treatment centre. Hes also going to be welcoming envoys from japan as well, at the request of rishi sunak and a few other bits and bobs as well. Joining me now to discuss this is charlotte griffiths, the editor at large at the mail on sunday. Charlotte thank you very, very much. So what did you make from reading this statement then . I mean, its i suppose its broadly good news. I think its broadly good news. Its obviously intended to be a huge boost to our confidence and happiness and faith in the royal family. And its not that i think its covering anything up. I just think it stops short up. I just think it stops short of saying hes in remission because hes not yet in remission, and the treatment will be ongoing. So, you know, will be ongoing. So, you know, in some ways its really positive. Hes obviously well enough to go to events in june. So theyre planning for an event, you know, in two months time. And i think we can look positively at that as, you know, encouraging. And i think one of thems particularly keen on is ascot. Is that right. Yeah. I revealed on sunday yeah. I revealed on sunday that hes going to ask it because see, you can never keep an aristo away from the season. The season is june, which is when all these swanky events happen. So one of the first things that, you know, came to me was that he was going to go to royal ascot, and thats when i started thinking, okay, well, if hes going to go to royal ascot, hes probably going to do some more serious things, such as trooping of the colour. We dont know yet, but maybe hell dont know yet, but maybe hell do d day celebrations, but he was determined to go to alaska because it was his mothers favourite event and she never, ever missed a single one until actually the very end of her life in her whole reign. So he, i think to honour his mums memory, is determined to go, you know, and its a big event. It lasts all day and it takes five days. So, lets see how many days. So, lets see how many days he attends. Do you think theres a way of keeping him quite protected . Keeping him quite protected . Isnt there . Really there . Yeah. So the guidance i was getting was that its the absolutely perfect event for where hes at now, because he kind of has to do a bubble covid style arrangement. And in royal style arrangement. And in royal ascot, theres a huge big glass box where everyone can see him. But of course, because of the glass, hes not going to be inhaung glass, hes not going to be inhaling an entire racecourses worth of germs while his immune system is compromised. So thats perfect. And then the other thing about it is he goes on this carriage ride, which is an open top carriage ride, and he can wave at everyone and, you know, be in the spirit of this incredibly glamorous royal event, but without breathing in, basically breathing in the germs of everyone. Yeah, its a good event. And the other way of reading this, which which is the truth, okay, is that he is now living with cancer, right . You mentioned there you say anywhere that hes in remission. Yeah. Because it doesnt sound like he is. And so this is a man who is not getting any younger, who is living with cancer, which i think is still concerning to people. Isnt it really . People. Isnt it really . I think its concerning. I think probably were all wanting them to say by the way, hes going to be in remission. Hes got exactly this long, you know, left, but you just cant