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GBN Breakfast July 3, 2024

Be taking a look ahead. The kings return to royal life as he takes on around 300 new patronages, including some that were closed to his mothers heart. As prince harry prepares to return to the uk and, of course, its Bank Holiday Weekend. So were going to be talking to a retail expert about how you could bag a bargain. This may. Good morning. Its taken 22 years but ipswich are finally back in the big time as victory over huddersfield propelled them back to the premier league in the title race. Four goals for Erling Haaland helped Manchester City keep pace with arsenal as he hit back at family nemesis roy keane. More later , the mixed roy keane. More later, the mixed picture for the rest of the bank houday picture for the rest of the Bank Holiday Weekend, with sunny spells for some, but also some outbreaks of rain and also some showers. Ill have all the details coming up soon. Morning to you. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im Ellie Costello, and this is breakfast on. Breakfast on. Gb news. Did you know or have you ever used, i should say, instant milk . Used, i should say, instant milk. 7 no. Me. 7 me . No. Because apparently, its becoming, popular amongst some users again. You know, that sort users again. You know, that sort of. What do they call creamer . Oh, yeah. Thats very american thing, isnt it . Creamer. You sort of get it in hotels sometimes, dont you . But apparently its making a comeback. Why . I dont know. Is it cheaper than just buying milk . It must be instant milk. I wouldnt even know what that looks like on the shelves. That looks like on the shelves. Its not very nice. Well, theres a brand. Oh. Is there . Oh. Is there . Theres a brand of it. Theres a brand of it. Have you tried it . Have you tried it . Oh, in years gone by. But its never very nice. Oh, i cant say. Oh right. Yeah. No, it doesnt look good. No. So im not im not a fan. So i wonder, are we going back to the 70s . Look at this. I was going to say, is that a good thing . Isnt a good thing politically . Was it a little nightmare . Yeah but, you know, some of that stuff because we were talking the other week, werent we . About you know, pineapple and cheese on sticks at parties and acas oliver laurence. Theyre all coming back. Theyre all coming back. Its all coming back. So maybe we need to buy creamer for our coffees as well. Yeah, i wouldnt be up for that personally. No. Would you . No, i dont like it. I dont like it. No, its too creamy for me. I dont really have milk in my coffee anyway. Oh, no, your oats. Milk. I have almond, almond, almond. Were discussing this morning how we say that word. Oh yeah. Almond or almond . Almond. Id almond or almond . Almond. Id say almond, yeah. So if we say nugget rather than nougat , we always got very than nougat, we always got very confused when there was an advert for a chocolate bar and no nugget filled with nougat. Like, whats that . No, no Chicken Nuggets or golden nuggets would be the only thing that is a nugget. I never thought of it like that. Yeah a nougat is something totally different. Thats what you get in a mars bar, right . Well, look, im being educated this morning. Quite right too, anyway, keep your thoughts coming through if you want to return to the 1970s. Maybe it feels. It feels like we need to at the minute. Gbnews. Com yoursay right now, is it time up for Prime Minister rishi sunak . Well, its been a miserable weekend for him so far. First of all, sadiq khan won his third term as london mayor yesterday afternoon. Afternoon. Its londoners who inspire me every day to continue our mission of building a fairer, safer and greener london and in what i hope will be a year of great change. A future Labour Government led by keir starmer, working with us in city hall will mean we can go much further and accomplish so much more. Well, just a few hours later , well, just a few hours later, the conservative andy street lost the West Midlands mayoralty, which hed been expected to retain to labours Richard Parker by 1508 votes. Well, joining us now is the former lib dem mp mark oaten. Really good to see you this morning mark. Thank you so much for your company. Whats your assessment of what weve seen over the weekend so far , good over the weekend so far, good morning to you both. I think its probably what all the three parties expected privately, the labour party would have expected to do as well as this. They would have underplayed it before these results came out. The conservatives Worst Nightmare was theyd lose half their seats. Will they have done . And the lib dems would have hoped that they could make breakthroughs in the seats theyre targeting in the next general election, and it looks like they have done so. Probably its exactly what we expected at this time. It would have been a shock, frankly, if the conservatives could have done better than the polls predicted, and it would have been a shock also, if labour had underperformed. So its broadly where i would have expected us to be this time out of a general election. Yeah, but whats interesting , yeah, but whats interesting, i think, and because, look, we knew it was going to be bad for the conservatives and it has been, but i think its whether theres been dealt a, a killer blow in all of this. And i reckon losing andy street might be because its such a shock. Be because its such a shock. I think that was the Tipping Point of disaster for them. In many ways. That was the one hope they were going to hold to. On they were going to hold to. On by they were going to hold to. On by all accounts, street was a popular mayor and if a popular conservative gets defeated in these circumstances , that will these circumstances, that will send a shiver through many, many conservative mps up and down the country because a lot of them will think, look, i do a good job locally. People like me, i hope ive got some personal votes. What the street result shows is that a personal vote just aint going to save you in this political climate. There will be a lot of tory mps waking up very concerned this morning. I mean, does that result with andy street suggest that the challenge facing the conservative party is even greater than first thought . I think it probably does, i dont know if i was a conservative party strategist. What i do next, bluntly, and thats always frightening because in these circumstances you can think, well, i could maybe change a policy, you know, throw the electorate some tax cuts. Well, theyve tried that. That hasnt worked. They might think, well, worked. They might think, well, lets throw in a new leader. Well i think theyve done that 3 or 4 times now. That hasnt worked. And the bluntly just comes an inevitability in the electoral cycle where everything you try and do is not hitting home. And i think the conservatives have bluntly got to that point. Now, their best strategy will be to minimise the losses when it comes to the general election. General election. Is the labour Party Offering anything apart from not being conservatives . Conservatives . I think thats what starmer has done very cleverly. Hes not offered much and in doing so he shut down the opportunity for attack on policies. Now i can remember back when i won my seat in 1997 for the lib dems , there in 1997 for the lib dems, there was huge enthusiasm about tony blair. People really wanted that change. What i dont see with starmer and labour is that kind of enthusiasm , so the conclusion of enthusiasm, so the conclusion i think we draw is that, look, their best placed to get rid of this unpopular conservative party but theres no massive enthusiasm for labour either. But i think starmer will be happy for that. Hes a safe player and hell say to his party, look, you know, ive kept it calm, ive kept it quiet. Ive not exposed us to new policies. Steady as she goes. Policies. Steady as she goes. And he seems cautious. But that cautious approach at the moment seems to be paying off. Mark as you were just describing. Its difficult to see how the tories are going to move forward from this as a party. Do you think the results over the weekend may have changed the timing and rishi sunak mind of when he might call a general election . Theres been talk, hasnt there, about october, november and going as long as possible. Well, do you think he possible. Well, do you think he may now call an early general election and as you say, focus now on minimising the losses . Now on minimising the losses . Absolutely not. Its my view. I mean, when you know youre going to get wiped out, why call an election . Its the classic turkey voting for an early christmas. His best hope. And its his only hope, is that Interest Rates eventually start to fall, that the inflation comes down. And he can have a narrative with the public which says, look, its been really tough. Its been bad. Weve seen you through covid, weve seen you through covid, weve seen you through covid, weve seen you through ukraine. But look, the signs are here. The economy is recovering. I think thats is recovering. I think thats his best hope. The problem is that the Interest Rates arent coming down, and so hell want to play it long in the hope that by, i believe, Something Like mid november , the bank of mid november, the bank of england will have cut those Interest Rates. The economy might be looking stronger. And to do that he needs time. So to do that he needs time. So i believe hell go as long as he possibly can. All right. So weve got a lot to wait for in all of this, seeing as you were a lib dem. Can i ask you about what the lib dems are doing at the moment, i just dont know if its falling on deaf ears. Really. Theyre doing a lot of ed davey is doing a lot of stunts , are they paying a lot of stunts, are they paying off or not . Well, i think the results from the local elections would satisfy ed davey. I think the party would say they are doing enough. I mean, look, if you look at those results, theyve actually come second ahead of the conservatives in the seats won. And thats a, you know, won. And thats a, you know, a pretty remarkable effort. But what youre not going to see from the lib dems is this big National Campaign in a much more focused. They have their eyes on maybe 40, 50, 60 seats. The general election and they are going to be absolutely targeting those, putting resources , money, those, putting resources, money, stuffing leaflets through peoples doors in those individual seats. So it might not actually have an impact on the Global National radar, but all they care about is winning those particular target seats. And they would say the results the other night show theyre on target to do that. Target to do that. But in terms of national, i mean, in local politics, lib dems have always been strong. I wonder if in national politics, theyre focusing on a small number of seats, what are the predictions . I saw based on the local results said, well, they may get an additional eight seats and take them to 38 or whatever the number is. I mean, theyre basically acknowledging arent they, that they will be nothing more than a protest party, a protest vote, and some, like me, would argue that maybe the party needs to be a little bit more ambitious and to, to argue for stronger things nationally about what they can achieve. But they were very, very concerned by what happened when one of their previous leaders, jo swinson , said, my name is jo jo swinson, said, my name is jo swinson, im going to be Prime Minister. And it was ridiculed. Minister. And it was ridiculed. So i think theyre very cautious about making grand claims. Personally, i think theyre heading for maybe 50, 60, 70 seats. They would never say that publicly, but if you look at the individual results from constituencies up and down the country where the lib dems are second, local people know that if they want to get rid of the tories, they vote for the party whos in second place. And in many seats that is the lib dems. So i think quietly behind the scenes, theyll be confident that they can have quite a big breakthrough at the next election. Is it exciting . Is it hitting the headlines . No its not. Will it be effective come the general election . Probably yes okay. Oh interesting. Mark oaten really good to see you. Thanks very much indeed. Thank you. Lots of you getting in touch this morning john andrews morning to you says morning you two. Today the tories need to be held to the fire. No more pretending they still have a chance at the next election. They lost the mayor in the West Midlands, andy street. Thats shown the tories everything. They will now lose the red wall. We need to be realistic, he says. Many tory voters will now move over to reform. If nigel comes out of retirement, thats a big if. Thats the big if, i mean, heck, hes just not saying anything at the moment, is there . Yeah, i think hell hell leave it as long as he can. I think, thats my prediction. But yeah, do keep those views coming in on what weve seen over the weekend. What are your thoughts . Gbnews. Com yoursay now, Donald Trumps hush money trial enters its third week in new york tomorrow. Yes. The former president is accused of falsifying Business Records over hush money payments made to the adult actress Stormy Daniels in order to cover up their alleged affair. Well, hes denied all wrongdoing as we know. Lets talk to professor scott lucas, professor of us politics at University College london, good to see you this morning. I have to see you this morning. I have to say, i dont really know much about whats been going on in the trial because the headlines certainly over here have all been sort of contempt of court and gag orders and all this sort of thing. Of thing. Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, all the drama has been that trump has been fined 9,000 because he continues to insult the proceedings , insulting the the proceedings, insulting the judge, insulting the prosecutors, insult , saying the prosecutors, insult, saying the judges family, the judges clerk. But its been really important these two weeks in terms of setting up, where we go with the substance of this trial, which , of course, is trial, which, of course, is about falsifying Business Records as part of an interference in the 2016 election. And i think you just heard from mark oaten that in politics, sometimes its quite good to be quiet but effective. Good to be quiet but effective. The same is true in trials. What the prosecution has been doing , the prosecution has been doing, because this is their term in court, has been laying out the evidence, which is i think is pretty clear, that that the trump team were very worried about his , sexual encounters and about his, sexual encounters and his affair , his affair with his affair, his affair with Karen Mcdougal, his sexual encounter with the porn star Stormy Daniels, that there was motive there to try to keep Stormy Daniels quiet, that the money was paid to her in october of 2016, and the next week, theyll probably then get to the substance of. Yes, and then the Business Records were falsified, to cover up that payment where the defence is going to go when it comes their turn. I dont think they can really knock back that evidence. I think what they that evidence. I think what they do is theyll go after the witnesses, theyll go after the character of the witnesses, especially Stormy Daniels and mike, Donald Trumps former fixer, michael cohen. Fixer, michael cohen. And how do you think this is actually affecting donald trump himself . Because weve seen, havent we, scott lucas in previous trials that this actually helps him a lot in the polls is, it feeds into his narrative, doesnt it, of him versus the establishment. But actually, i think for the first time in this trial, we have seen him getting somewhat frustrated. Him getting somewhat frustrated. Do you think thats because its been such a long trial so far . Well, i think it was always a bit of a myth. More it was a spin line by the trumpists that the trials always help him. You the trials always help him. You know, they kind of say that because its like, oh, dont put him on trial or else hell win, i dont think it helped him. For example, when he was found guilty of defamation and Sexual Assault of E Jean Carroll the writer, it wont help him with women voters. In terms of this trial, whats compounded that is that trump is kind of limited in what he can say, because of course, he risked getting fined if he lashes out too much. And because practically he has to be in court rather than on the campaign trail. And for that reason, he is getting frustrated. He is getting angry in court because trump doesnt really do procedure. He doesnt do evidence. He doesnt even do. Dare i say it, the legal process. He does big speeches. He does loud and bigly. And he cant do that, while this trial goes on into a third week or fourth week and a second month. Okay, scott , good to see you okay, scott, good to see you this morning. Thank you very much indeed. Well, well see what happens tomorrow when it all kicks off again. Thank you what happens tomorrow when it now at 6 16, lets take a look at some other stories coming into the newsroom. The family of Daniel Anjorin say theyre devastated after he was killed walking to school in london on tuesday. The 14 year london on tuesday. The 14 year old, who had been described as loving and precious, attacked by a man with a sword in hainault. Four other people, including two police officers, were injured and marcus monzo, a spanish brazilian , was charged with brazilian, was charged with murdering the teenager and appeared in Court Earlier this week. More than 20 dogs have been seized after police raided a suspected illegal xl bully Breeding Farm in sheffield. 16 of the animals are being looked after in

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