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GBN Breakfast July 3, 2024

Play currently at two all. And they play tonight. Nottingham forest have lost their appeal against their points deduction and finally erik ten hag. Is he a dead man walking . Good morning. Another day of sunny and bright weather for many of us. But will that sunshine last until tomorrow . You can find all the details with me a little later. You can find all the details with me a little later. On. With me a little later. On. A very good morning to you. Our top story today , the our top story today, the regulator ofcom has unveiled new age restrictions for online social media use in a bid to keep children safer online. Varne. Yes, so social media firms will be required to introduce robust checks, including the use of photo id such as passports, to identify children using their sites and applications, and it comes today as internet Safety Charity Internet Matters has revealed i in 7 teens have experienced online nude sharing abuse. Political editor for huffpost uk, Kevin Schofield joins us now. Good morning kevin. Thanks for joining joins us now. Good morning kevin. Thanks forjoining us. So children i mean ive always argued that it should be adults who shouldnt be using social media, let alone kids, and actually quite shocking statistics from ofcom claim that more than half of 7 to 12 year olds have used applications such as tiktok or instagram using fake data dates of birth, so this will be stopped under this new Online Safety bill well, certainly. Hopefully it will be stopped. Hopefully it will be stopped. Certainly. Thats the ambition. I think its very important that we do protect children as much as possible online and or personally. And ive got a couple of kids and, you know, they are fascinated by social media and, and online and you have to work very hard actually to protect them. So any help i think that parents can get from the Tech Companies themselves and would be much appreciated. But yeah, absolutely understand why ofcom have taken this, this action weve seen some tragic incidents, obviously, of young people, who have been using social media, who have tragically lost their lives. So, so yeah, its clear theres a real political momentum behind this as well. People want to see action taken and they want to see the tech giants take this very seriously indeed. Yes but is this going to work . And i suppose the question is, are they requiring kids to now provide id from the age of 13, in to order use social media . Theres always been this concern that theyll be able to get hold of fake id, theyll be workarounds, the system and also if they are, you know, able to prove that the Tech Companies havent fulfilled their part of the bargain. How much gravitas is how much power does ofcom really have . I mean, theyre talking about 10 of global profits for these organisations, but is that really going to happen . Little lowly ofcom versus tiktok in china . Well, absolutely. You know meta as well. Hugely powerful, corporate lie ins, who obviously have their own bottom line that they want to protect as much as possible, so yeah , we have to possible, so yeah, we have to hope, obviously, that ofcom, have the powers to back this up, the thing as well is you know, kids are very, inventive when it comes to trying to work their way around rules when it comes to id , so you really have to to id, so you really have to hope that these measures are robust enough to ensure that the children can, as i say, work round the rules as they are put in place. But obviously parents have a responsibility as well to try and make sure that their kids are not seeing stuff online, that they that they shouldnt be. But its a constant battle. And obviously the hope is that these measures that ofcom will bring in will finally tilt the balance in favour of parents and child safety. Yeah, kevin , one of the main yeah, kevin, one of the main aspects of the new bill is the ability for children not to be added to groups without their consent, for example, on whatsapp or on snapchat, because there has been concern in recent times where kids are unwittingly added to groups of 100, 200, maybe even more people, and viewing unwittingly , you know, viewing unwittingly, you know, pornography, racist content that surely is something that, parents would support. Parents would support. Well, without a doubt. I mean, i mean, the, the technology is moving at such a fast pace constantly. Theyre fast pace constantly. Theyre trying to try to keep ahead of it as as a parent is virtually possible. So you need to try and, lean on these Tech Companies to try and make sure that they are putting measures in place themselves to ensure that children are not seeing inappropriate content as i say, this is a huge political issue. Now. Parents are demanding action, and its up to politicians and the regulator to come up with measures which will keep our children safe. Okay, Kevin Schofield, thanks very much indeed for filling us in on that story. If youre affected by this, let us know. Were both parents, arent we, ben, do you let your kids on the app . They certainly dont have social media yet. Theyre only eight and six and a half. But its something that i really, really care about, whether or not that theyre going to have their own smartphones. Ive actually sort of doing my own little low Level Campaign amongst my own friends and parents to try and change the law so that kids cant get their hands on smartphones until theyre 16. To prevent any of this, you know, i think this is a one step in the right direction, but i think weve got a long way to go. Still, mine definitely dont. But my only concern is if you hold them back too much technologically, are they going to be left behind with their peers . Well, thats why i think it needs to be a uniform thing. I think theres too much pressure on the parents to kind of, you know, bay to the crowd. I think if all parents were in the same position, all schools supported it. I think it could be a really positive thing, not least because of all the evidence that were seeing about their brains just are not mentally capable of deaung just are not mentally capable of dealing and processing with a lot of the content that you were just describing. Certainly, you know, pre puberty or under 16, ill say again, i mentioned it just there. I dont think the vast majority of adults should be looking at grey. They call it doomscrolling when youre just aimlessly and inanely flicking through instagram, seeing all this content, which is, you know, arguably turning your brain to mush. So what do you do . Yes. Well then then i its funny because i then then i its funny because i then sort of flipped the argument and say, look, i can see the positives to instagram and social media because i think of all the life hacks that ive picked up through doing it or the i mean, im personally completely obsessed by interiors. I get so much inspiration from all the interior content that i follow on there. So there are positives to it. It doesnt necessarily have to rot your brain as long as you have a bit of self control, but i think for kids who cant regulate themselves, its the algorithm they need help sort the algorithm, right . Has the king sorted out the algorithm . He is denying access for his son, prince harry, whos in the uk. He said he will not meet up whilst hes here to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Invictus Games. Yes, harry landed in london yesterday ahead of an event marking ten years since the Invictus Games launched. However, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news its unfortunately not possible due to his majestys fall programme, adding that the princes quote, understanding of his fathers commitments and hopes to see him sooii. 500. Soon. Well, lets speak to showbiz and royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. Good morning to you, kinsey. I schofield. Good morning to you, kinsey. I mean, schofield. Good morning to you, kinsey. I mean, whatever way you kinsey. I mean, whatever way you cut this, this is this is a snub from his father. I mean, surely especially given that hes had Health Concerns recently. No matter how busy your diary is, nobody doubts that its busy. You find time to see your son when he lives on the other side of the world. Surely. I mean, i do think especially for the american market, that prince harry is, is courting so aggressively that this plays very well into his victimhood narrative, daddy didnt love me. Im only the spare. I wasnt hugged as a child. He didnt hugged as a child. He didnt take me on bike rides. I mean, that that falls right in this category. But the fact that its prince harrys team thats telling us this, you know, the palace refusing to comment, and the fact that prince harry is willing to overshare to the extent of saying, im not seeing my dad and heres why its his fault, i think gives us some insight as to why the king isnt pursuing a meeting with his son. Obviously, nothing is sacred. They cant trust. The last time prince harry jumped on a plane and went over to visit with his father, you know, i turned on Good Morning America a few days later and prince harry was discussing that meeting on an international, you know, morning show. So perhaps they are trying show. So perhaps they are trying to be protective of their space right now. The crown, you know, the crown is in crisis. If you if you consider their Health Issues and maybe the king is just looking for some peace. Just looking for some peace. Yeah, i guess kinsey throwing your family under the bus in the manner that he did has consequences. Whod have thought . But what about the princess of wales . Catherine . Shes, of course, recovering with, or battling cancer still and is recovering as we speak. Hes not even going to visit her. Is he . Prince william is away, of course, but they were so close at one point, and it just seems rather sad that he cant find even a couple of minutes to meet with her. Well, i feel kind of, you know, in their defence, i wonder if the both the king and the princess of wales are being instructed by their doctors to be wary of socialising with somebody whos just been on a plane with how how many people we dont know. Prince harry is we dont know. Prince harry is meeting with a lot of people over the next three days for the Invictus Games and princess, the princess of wales, we do know, is going through preventative chemotherapy for cancer. The, chemotherapy for cancer. The, that will weaken your immune system. Thats why were not seeing her very often. So it could be as simple as just trying to protect her, her body and her and her strength right how. Now. Come on. Kenzie. He was on a private jet. You know it anyway. And as ben was alluding to, were hearing these reports, i think tatler have been claiming that Prince William is away for a night. Hes off to nancy on this is the site for his first homelessness project that hes setting up down in cornwall. Lots of commentators saying, is this a sign , perhaps, that the this a sign, perhaps, that the princess of wales is on the mend now, we obviously arent in the business of speculating about her health, but i suppose all of us, you included big fans of the princess of wales and hopeful that this could mean something positive. Yeah, i really felt a little relief when i saw him joking about Jack Whitehall and throwing it back to Jack Whitehall , always saying that whitehall, always saying that kate was the one that got away. I mean, the fact that he was willing to make light of that situation to me gave me a little bit of hope. But i agree. I think that it is a good sign that the princess of wales is hopefully on the mend and its unfortunate, but i think ben hit the nail on the head actions have consequences and words have consequences. And the royal family has had an especially hard 2024. And i think theyre trying to protect their peace. Trying to protect their peace. So kinsey, prince harry is of course doing his invictus gig at saint pauls. That finishes at about 6 pm. I think the king, meanwhile, is engaged in a garden party at Buckingham Palace that finishes slightly earlier at four. Theyre definitely not meeting, as we understand this morning. Does understand this morning. Does this signal the end of any future relationship . Because future relationship . Because from the outside, you would have thought if theres one occasion that you could have some sort of unification , its the fact that unification, its the fact that harrys in the city that his father lives. And of course, father lives. And of course, hes, battling cancer. If they cant do it under these circumstances, when will they ever. Eve r. Even i even i mean, and just imagine theres literally a chance that their paths could cross in a can their paths could cross in a car. I mean, isnt that crazy to think about, no, no, i see what youre saying. I dont think youre saying. I dont think that this is. You know, i dont want to say this. There will never be a reconciliation here. I think that this just isnt the right time. Patience is a virtue. And i, you know, just just isnt the right time. But but i will say, both sides were telling me that there was going to be a meeting. So did something happen over the last few days . Was there an argument few days . Was there an argument about camilla being in the room . What you know, what could have taken place that sent this south . Because we were all being told to expect a meeting between harry and his father . Definitely raises more questions than it answers. Kinsey schofield. As always, lovely to see you. Thanks very much. Thank you. Thank you. Im not sure if someone had called my wife a wicked stepmother. Id be keen on meeting them either. But who knows . Well, families, you know, its easy to lose them. You dont get to choose them. I think its always sad when theres, you know, bad beef between father and son. Fingers crossed there can be some sort of reunion in the future. But of reunion in the future. But yeah, not in the leo household. No. No. No. Not yet. Not yet. Anyway, i was saying to you earlier how were having a discussion off air about my kids and isabels kids , and how im and isabels kids, and how im fearful for when they grow up and they wont want to hang out with me anymore. I said they still will, dont worry. And i would just dread to think that we ever have an argument where i dont speak to my son. I couldnt imagine it so i feel sad for the king and for for harry and all of them. Its horrible, right. Lets turn to other matters now. The time is 613. Here are the other stories making the headlines today and the foreign secretary, lord cameron, has warned that the uk is at risk of committing war crimes in rafah if they continue their latest offensive without a credible plan to protect civilians. It comes as the United States also urges israel to accept a ceasefire deal with hamas, the Global Charity unicef has warned that the ground incursion into rafah will pose a catastrophic risk to the 600,000 children currently taking shelter in that part of gaza, to and wuster, where a woman has admitted to being part of a global monkey torture network. Holly legresley posted more than 130 videos and 20 photos of the animals being tortured to onune the animals being tortured to online chat groups. The 37 year old pleaded guilty to separate charges of publishing obscene articles and intentionally encouraging animal cruelty. She was charged along with another woman after an investigation into animal torture overseas and a nationwide issue with border force e gates has caused significant disruption at airports overnight. Heathrow , gatwick and heathrow, gatwick and manchester were all affected by the outage as tens of thousands of people were left stranded in terminals, a spokesperson for the home office has revealed that the Network Issue occurred just before 8 00 last night. The e gates came back, then came back online at midnight. Theres no indication that it was as a result of a cyber attack, although we do want to hear from you. If you were caught up in that. You now, the defence secretary has told mps that the government cannot rule out state involvement in a hack at the ministry of defence, but refused to confirm reports that china was behind it. Beijing has strongly denied reports its behind the hack, saying the accusations are, quote , completely fabricated. Quote, completely fabricated. Security specialist will geddes joins us now. Will, good morning to you. Hi. First of all, why maybe im being too simplistic in this this could possibly be some 20 year old kid in russia or, you know, Eastern Europe with, a bit of sophistication behind him. Why is it necessarily a state actor . Can you explain for those who. Okay, so we have to look at the landscape at the moment, the landscape of Cyber Security and particularly the risks from nafion particularly the risks from nation states overseas, there could be deemed as hostile. And we look at signatures of behaviour and we look at signatures of attack. Where are signatures of attack. Where are they attacking . What are the intentions . What are the motivations , and what could be motivations, and what could be the dividends or the returns on those investments of effort. Now, it could very well be a 20 year old whos in in his mums basement, whos doing it, but he could have very well been instructed by a state actor to do it on their behalf. And thats not uncommon. Its a part of their plausible deniability process to say we as a state havent officially done it. We havent officially done it. We havent done it out of an official agency. Its been done through a proxy and this is nothing to do with us. So, you know, again, weve seen this with russia, weve seen this with russia, weve seen this with china, weve seen it in ukraine, weve seen it all over the world. Where they will use separate entities to carry out these attacks. But we look at these attacks. But we look at the targeting and we look at what theyve targeted. And im having my own question marks about the border force system. So am i actually, funnily enough, everybody is as well. So i think we have to consider at the moment that unless were told otherwise and its confirmed otherwise , we are its confirmed otherwise, we are susceptible to a series of multiple form attacks. It seems to be the sort of i guess, the modus operandi of the government at the moment that wherever china is involved, there is a huge time lag before were actually told. I dont know why, but it could well be that its two year

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