Badly behaved children, will be asking should parents be penalised for their kids actions . Penalised for their kids actions. 7 thats our debate this morning and in the sport this morning, its advantage Manchester City as they beat spurs to go to the top of the premier league with one game left. Spurs manager Ange Postecoglou is not happy at all about something. Rory mcilroy has filed for divorce and will have an olympic flame update. Chilly and damp across parts of the east today, but for many there will be some warm sunshine. Top of the temperature charts likely to be across parts of northern scotland again today. Join me later for a full forecast. Okay, well, the story were starting with is knife crime and its rising each year since the pandemic and the government has told police to increase their use of stop and search. I do laugh at this because i think who would have told the police to stop , stop who would have told the police to stop, stop and who would have told the police to stop , stop and search. 7 where . To stop, stop and search. 7 where . Where to stop, stop and search . Where . Where does the instruction come from in the first place . But anyway, the government have now decided it wasnt us and you should have more of it around. Yes, well, this also comes as the education secretary, Gillian Keegan, calls for Sex Education to be banned for children under the age of nine. Well, joining us now, Political CorrespondentKatherine Forster, to put some meat on the bones here. Catherine, good morning. Catherine, good morning. Yes. Good morning, eamonn and isabel. I yes. Good morning, eamonn and isabel. I think yes. Good morning, eamonn and isabel. I think whats going yes. Good morning, eamonn and isabel. I think whats going on here is in part an attempt to draw some dividing lines with the labour party ahead of the next election. So two big political stories making the headunes political stories making the headlines today. The first one, the policing minister, chris philp, has said that the police have the powers to use, stop and search. Much more than that. They do and that they need to be using them. Hes written a piece using them. Hes written a piece in the telegraph saying that stop and search is a vital tool, and it is not used nearly enough. Now pardon me. About ten years ago, theresa may, said that the government needed to reduce the use of stop and search following claims by campaigners that black people were disproportionately targeted and the number of stop and searches dropped very significantly to a low about five years ago. Now it has gone up slightly since then, but in places like london, where, a third of knife crime in england and wales happened last year, the use has just dropped and dropped and dropped. And, you know, we do have a knife crime epidemic in this country. So people like sadiq khan, the mayor of london, is not keen on it at all and has said he wants to reduce the use of it where possible. But the met Police Commissioners, sir mark rowley, has had a bit of a change of heart and has said that he wants to see it used more , because to see it used more, because knife crime in london is at a record high. So there are some political dividing lines here, and basically the governments view is the police have the powers to do their job. They need to do that and stop worrying about who they might offend or being accused of racist racism, etc, etc. And speaking of offence , and speaking of offence, catherine, all this talk, can i just ask . Yeah, go on then , just ask . Yeah, go on then, because, you know, the police have the power to do their jobs. Have the power to do their jobs. Catherine sane, right . Who took the power away from the police to do their jobs . And why are they worried . And this is this is where we go round in circles here that no one ever admits to saying. Yes, it was this Government Department that said, dont do stop and search anymore, or this instruction came from the mayor of london or the Police Commissioner or whatever. So who the heck . It whatever. So who the heck . It didnt suddenly just go away. Everybody decided, oh, its a badidea everybody decided, oh, its a bad idea to have stop and search who decided it . Who decided it . Well, basically, the police were told be very careful how you use it, and its resulted in it. Well. By who . By the government. And it was under theresa mays stewardship. Be careful. So now we have the government correcting themselves. So theyre trying to pretend that were putting things right when they put things wrong in the first place. Well, yes, exactly. And of course, this is the major problem that rishi sunak is having trying to convince people to elect the conservatives again because theyve been in power for 14 years. But yes, it was under theresa may under pressure from Campaign Groups, that the use of stop and search fell very dramatically. And now , of dramatically. And now, of course, we have a surge in knife crime. We had that horrific incident in hainault just three weeks ago where, a 14 year old boy just left his house and was killed by somebody with a sword. Killed by somebody with a sword. So, you know, a feeling that knife crime has got out of control. And rather like, you know, when we had the grooming scandals in rotherham and other, places in the north that basically people turned a blind eye because they didnt want to be considered racist. And the police, mark rowley has admitted that the police often do not have the confidence and that they worry about Community Tensions. Tensions. And catherine, just quickly, because we are almost out of time. But on the issue of Sex Education, which Gillian Keegans been talking about today, rules are changing and i think a lot of parents will be pleased. Theres been a lot of concern that kids are being told too much, too soon. Whats the new framework . Yes. So first of all, children will be banned from having Sex Education in schools till theyre in year five, which is roughly aged nine. And very specifically, schools will be told theyre not to talk about gender identity, that it is a contested belief. So it is not okay for Primary School children to be taught that, you know, you might be a girl in a boys body or vice versa, that that is , too or vice versa, that that is, too much that its contested and simply that Primary Schools should not go there, that if and when they do talk about Sex Education, it should be sticking to biological facts. So this wont please everybody. But certainly i think plenty of parents will be breathing a sigh of relief. Yeah. And to be clear, i mean, theyre talking about it. They havent actually pinned down the actual age yet that they want to talk about sex with kids, when will this be finalised . Because of course, there could be a general election in july, nobody knows exactly when its going to be. I mean, will will this be when will parents see these changes brought in . I suppose . Changes brought in . I suppose . Well, yes. Well, were expecting an announcement from the education secretary, Gillian Keegan , later. And we will get keegan, later. And we will get the detail of it. But the ban, in terms of not teaching about Sex Education until nine, sounds quite firm, although often when you drill down into the details of these things, you find that something that is, you know, touted as a ban is actually just guidance for schools generally do have quite a lot of flexibility to use their judgement, but it does sound like a real sea change in terms of gender identity, trans ideology, and particularly that being taught or dealt with in schools. Thank you catherine, thank you very much indeed. Can i talk to you about sex . Yeah, lets do it. Lets talk about the birds and the bees. Well, do you know when i was taught about the birds and bees at school . Did they teach it to you . Because i wasnt sure at catholic schools. What went on in your day . Nothing. Nothing . Yeah. Didnt happen. But we had, biology section in our nuffield science course. Yeah. Did they rip the pages out . Did they rip the pages out . It was taken away. It was taken away. Come on. come on. There was a picture of a naked woman and a naked man, and they werent doing anything. They werent doing anything. They were just standing there and they were diagrams saying, this is the whatever, and this is the whatever. And they were taken out of our nuffield science books or pack. And so we werent allowed to see that. So i mean that. Yeah. The well, i mean , definitely biology well, i mean, definitely biology is important. My five year old whos in year one, has just come home, having been told that words, proper medical words for the bits, which to be honest, i find a bit anyway. But my son is eight and he is agitating to know where babies come from. And ikeep know where babies come from. And i keep saying to him, ask your teacher where the birds and the bees come from. Yeah, he wants to know children know why they have to know what nine why do they have to know . I dont know why they have to. Well, do you know why . Because of the internet. And because otherwise children are learning all this stuff via porn and violent porn. And i dont agree with that. I do out there. I know you say this all the time. You say eamonn the internet is filthy. Its disgusting. Whatever. Now ive tried to look for filthy and Disgusting Things and i find, well, you need some lessons because its very easy, difficult. You just, you know, all this business, all this sex lands on your door. Yeah. If you and i went to our phones today and i went to our phones today and said, lets look up sex, we wouldnt get too much, i dont know, i mean, lots of blocks and things on my im not allowed to look at things. Oh, well, i dont know whos done. Well. Eamonn. Well. Eamonn. Yes, but i know i dont believe it is as awash with filth as well. Thats good to be. I hope youre right. I suspect youre not, we know that kids as young as nine are seeing violent porn. They do need to be educated, but i think taking the politics out of all of this has to be a good thing. Let us know what you think this morning. Whats the correct age . Do you welcome these changes . And you know, what were your experiences and when did your kids start asking you those awkward questions . It is embarrassing, isnt it . I dont ever remember. I dont ever remember. Did your kids never ask you . Did your kids never ask you . No, i dont remember asking my parents any questions about anything. They certainly didnt tell me, nor did the teachers. Its also a minefield these days because i started trying to say to my son, oh, its well, its when mummies and daddies, they have a loving cuddle and they have a loving cuddle and they really want to have a baby. And i thought, well, you cant say that. Its not just mummies and daddies and its not always wanted. And i just thought, ill just ask a teacher, okay . I dont know the answer. Whats that song . Its a nightmare. Lets talk about sex, baby. Lets talk about sex, baby. Lets talk about sex, baby. Lets talk about you and me. Lets talk about all the something. All the good things and the bad things. You to be. Yeah. Lets talk about the duke and duchess of sussex. Okay. Good. Okay. Good. And they have seen their, Archewell Foundation declared you couldnt write this, could you . No. This is funny, so the term legally that they use in america is this company is delinquent, right . In california, it was alleged that they failed to file the correct paperwork and pay the necessary fees. Archewell have hit back at reports saying that they they are indeed compliant. Well, in the meantime, whilst the Charity Regulator has said that theyre not in Good Standing, the foundation has been told to stop soliciting or spending money. Lets get to Kinsey Schofield whos probably enjoyed our previous conversation much more than the one. Help me out here, kinsey, who taught you about sex . Kinsey sake . Well, as im watching this, im thinking i grew up a Southern Baptist in texas where all i was told was , if you have all i was told was, if you have premarital sex, youll go to hell. So thats that. I mean, like that. You know, i didnt ask any questions. I just assumed that i better stay away from all those things because i wanted to make my way to heaven. Absolutely. What a good girl in hell. So thats good. That says a lot about you. And meanwhile, harry and meghan, are they in hell . Whats going on . So, i mean, i do have a good, positive update for harry and meghan. This is im going to be honest , this is the third honest, this is the third version of events that team sussex has given the media. Initially, page six was given the excuse that archewell had filed an extension and that the government just hadnt updated their records. Later, harry and meghans team stated that the initial check was sent to an attorney but was lost in the mail. You know, classic dog ate my homework, you know, now obviously the right hand doesnt know what the left hand is doing in this scenario, but the updated story is that they are in the clear and the independent today reporting that archewell is back in Good Standing with the government. Archewell released a statement saying that they you know, they investigated this situation and they can confirm that they are fully compliant and in Good Standing, kind of pushing the blame on the government , the state of government, the state of california. In that case, id tell meghan and harry that you know meghan more than harry, since i dont think he can vote. She she gets what she votes for, but the amount owed was reportedly just 200. Thats not including late fees. And it is including late fees. And it is believed that they can now continue to solicit money to solicit donations and distribute donations. But such an embarrassing stain for harry and meghan to land in the United States with on on headlines all over the place after their glowing nigeria reviews. Glowing nigeria reviews. Also. I mean, it was i was sort of scratching my head as to why somebody was being asked to speak at a women in Leadership Conference in nigeria when her own charity at home was not in Good Standing. But youve updated us on that. Whats your view on this portrait of the king . Eamonn and i actually both really like it, but i know lots of people this morning are saying its not for them. Its very red. I absolutely love it. I mean, im maybe im a weirdo, but i thought it was absolutely beautiful and stunning. Its one of those things that stops you in your tracks. I think its, you know, i think its earthy like him. I love the butterfly and i think its a reflection of you know, what a unique what a unique monarch. Hes going to be. So i thought it was beautiful and different. And i beautiful and different. And i just thought, i have a lot of people in my inbox to going, thats horrific. And im like, you know, i think that its lovely, i enjoy it, i think its beautiful. I look at it every day. If i could, i think his face looks lovely and warm. No, he should tell his face that he likes it because he didnt. Didnt. What do we have the footage of him looking at it, i dont know, ill do in front of him yesterday. And he did not look very. And he did not look very. One is not amused by it. One is not amused by it. I mean, he just had nothing to say about it, which i thought was very strange that he had the artist there beside him. I must say, if i was getting a portrait done of myself, i would want something as modern. Its modern and yet its traditional. The face is traditional and Everything Else is modern. Art is supposed to be different. Its supposed to be different. Its supposed to be eye catching, and ive never seen anything like that before. You know, its a bit boudoir y. I kind of understand that. You could see it in a bar or something, and i think it looks better with the black frame than the way its in all the papers. And on our screen. There but i think its great. And you know what . Itll look fantastic on some sort of gold wallpapered palatial wall. Itll brighten the room no end, i think. Make it look a bit more 2024. And had he set there and been like, oh wow, how, you know, i think wed be like, oh, okay, yeah, its your face. But hes so self depricating. And i think that he is humble and i do think that he is humble and i do think that his reaction was probably just trying to let the art speak for itself, which it certainly did. And its like you said, art needs to have that. The magic of art is that if its good, people will debate it. And thats exactly whats happening today and yesterday , and it will and yesterday, and it will continue to happen. But i think its so fun. I would have, like i said, id have it in my house. Ashley longshore two here in the states has this great collection of royals drinking. So shes painted an entire collection of everybody, you know, with a glass in their hand, so i love i love royal art. Its so fun. And apparently camilla is a fan of it as well. So if she likes it, then it must be okay. The artist. Whats the artist called . Whats the artist called . Oh, youre gonna put me on the spot there. His name is, jonathan yeo. Yeow, and it took him four years to complete, and it was actually commissioned before he became king in 2020. I think its i think its superb. And if anybodys getting me a going away present from gb news. Where are you going . Where are you going . Im not going anywhere. I mean, if, you know, come retirement, hes got a karaoke career that lets talk about sex was pretty good. Eamonn. Eamonn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, i might i might pick up a whole new career in that talking about sex. Oh, gosh. Help us. No no no no no. Thank you kinsey. Thank you kinsey. God bless. Okay. See you soon. Bye bye. So we like the portrait of the king. Yeah. What do you think . Let us know. Lets have a look at other stories coming into the newsroom on this wednesday morning. Well, in a new bid to kerb obesity levels, the nhs has started offering overweight men cash rewards for slimming down the trial, which paid men up to £400 to shed the pounds, was found to be more successful than traditi