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a quite strong, common sense test irrespective of the intelligence that suggests that the regime carried this out. now, do we have a picture or do we have irrefutable, beyond a reasonable doubt evidence? >> this is not a court of law. and intelligence does not work that way. >> paul callan, i get twitchy when i hear this is not a court of law, beyond a reasonable doubt perhaps isn't the standard that we're looking for here. isn't that exactly the standard americans have come to expect? >> well, maybe on television and maybe in court. but this is politics. and frankly, if you look back through american history, this -- these things have never been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. i'll give an example. remember the maine. that led -- the sinking of the "main" in the harbor led to the spanish american war. it this day we don't know who sarv sank the "main." resolution based on very little evidence. if international politics were

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