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to go. >> all right, doug. you worked with him. you know this guy, what do you think? can he change? because a lot of folks think he can't. >> i think we're putting too much blame on maliki himself. the bottom line is all of maliki's government is dysfunctional especially because talabani was incapacitated and he seemed they could get them to talk. maliki is no man dale and it's not like there is an equivalent of the de klerk saying we committed some crime in the minority regime. there's no equivalent fig out other side. >> the bottom line what i hear you saying is there is a good chance, a lot of experts believe that iraq will become three separate countries? >> i hope not. that would be a bad outcome. all three of the countries would be less than the current sum and

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