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guy. >> chris was an in -- an incredible individual. he was doing things he loved. he loved to help people and he loved to fly. and he was just incredible. if i go too far, you let me know but he -- he played football in high school. then he went and he got a full academic scholarship at wichita university and he wanted to play football and then he went to missouri raleigh and then he got his football scholarship and he walked on and he graduated with an aerospace engineering degree and a mathematics degree. >> so he was clearly not under underachiever and i understand