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the sheriff's office. they're co-authors of breaking the code and they join me now. what the hell is going on here? >> well i don't know exactly what's going on down there in waco. but it's evidently over territory and the club's bottom rocker the state of texas, and along them lines. it's about turf. these clubs don't want nobody else infringing on their territory. >> yeah. >> and the bandidos are the biggest club in texas. >> one of the guys spoke and said earlier, saying we've kicked the thugs out of our gang chris. this isn't the bulk of what's in there. is that true? are they just a big group of thugs roaming rampant and fighting over stupid things like territory? >> you know, what this is if you go back to being a little kid, playing king of the hill. this is king of the hill.