he will call maggie haberman -- >> and she's so discredited why did the president call her? >> the question was why does he continue to do it when he knows it's an insult? >> about pocahontas you mean? >> why does he continue to insult even beyond pocahontas? >> i think the pocahontas comment, i don't think it's racial slur in any way. and let me say why. if you call someone who is a native american poke hcahontasp that's not a racial slur. and if you call someone who isn't a native-american pocahontas i think that isn't a slur. i think that's called making fun of someone, not a racial slur. >> we don't know that she is. >> she's already admitted -- >> regardless it's not the forum. it's inappropriate. [ overlapping speakers ] >> does anybody realize pocahontas was a real person? she's associated with james town in 1613. she was actually kidnapped by