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some witnesses back in light of some of the conflicting testimony and documents. we have been fighting with the state department to get some of the documents that identifies conversations and e-mails and records of whatsapp communications. so we know what these communications are, we know they're relevant to our investigation, we know that they are, i think, decisive in terms of describing the activities of certain individuals. so we know the documents exist, we know what they say. >> in terms of timing, which was the question, when can we expect public hearings? >> they're fighting us, so the timing depends on what a judge rules whether or not we can have those documents. if it takes three weeks to get the documents, it's going to take three weeks. if it has to go to an appeals court, then it will be a longer