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homeland security or the secret service-y cervantes. it should be done by an agency that is outside their control. >> there's another big development here, because the former trump white house counsel pat cipollone and his deputy patrick philbin have been subpoenaed by a grand journey jury. they have already testified. the question is, how could the questioning be different? it can be different because this is more, the january 6th committee is political. that's political. jeffrey, this is legal. this would be more of a legal investigation. >> right. but there are legal obstacles. there are issues of executive privilege that could be raised. there are issues of attorney-client that could be raised. even though they were both government lawyers, the courts have held that in certain circumstances, with certain kinds of communication, the attorney client privilege is invoked.