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telling the story. you know, i think that the best explorers are also good storytellers and good recorders of the image. shackleton took big eight by 10 camera with them, and some of those plates are are so famous and iconic that they slept with them against all odds. and if you know the shackle the story, i'm sure you do incredible odds that they fought to get back. but they brought back the pictures, you know, and the pictures coming back from the moon that the first apollo landing crew brought back are so important and so iconic for us, so, yeah, it's not a big stretch for me from filmmaking to exploration. i just shift my filmmaking to documentary mode. you know, and i found documentaries to be pretty challenging. you know, you spend a lot of time in the editing room on a documentary. why because there's no script, you know, and with ocean exploration, the ocean didn't get your script, so it doesn't exactly show up at nine a.m. to do what you wanted to do, and so you get a lot of random footage and you never know quite if