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spending. so president biden is going to be trying to ramp up the pressure on republicans like congressman lawler knowing very well that kevin mccarthy has a very slim margin in the house, a very slim majority that he has to try and keep together. we're going to hear president biden warning of the disastrous consequences of default, and he's also going to talk about what he himself has proposed. in his budget for the next fiscal year where he has proposed some spending of course but also saying that his budget would cut the deficit by nearly $3 trillion over the next ten years. this comes as kevin mccarthy has said that the president needs to outline what he would be willing to cut to be able to bring down the deficit going forward. but no question that despite the meeting yesterday these two sides are very, very far apart. you're going to see this public messaging battle play out as well as those behind-the-scenes meetings that are happening beginning today. >> yeah, and you wonder if the easier path might be not from biden and mccarthy, perhaps moderates on the hill. we'll watch.