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saying he expects nothing from the meeting with my lawyers and the lunatics in the doj regarding january 6th. he's accusing them, as he has been for several weeks, if not months now, of interfering in the 2024 election. let's discuss with lawyers who worked inside the trump white house. mae, as someone who worked in the white house counsel's office, what is it like for you to hear the new charges yesterday of a president attempting to delete surveillance footage? >> well, you know, these charges are an inkblot, i think, for most americans. if you are inclined to think that trump's a criminal, they promote that. if you are inclined to think that the department of justice is partisan, you're reminded of hillary clinton deleting 30,000 emails and here we're talking about surveillance, not the documents themselves. it's not necessarily surprising to me. i guess i'm of the mind that there's probably another cooperating witness, and that's