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>> erin, even more than that. he called a couple of these state senators in december. no, he tried to brow beat them. tried to break their arms to try to get them to go the other way similar to what i think he tried to do in georgia though in michigan it was 145,000 votes and to their credit they walked away and said it wasn't true. so over and over he got the message and yet he still moved forward with this massive lie. tragically so many americans believe him just because, hey, they do, which is one of the reasons why he has a commanding lead as he looks to win the primary next year. >> it is amazing to me how much of this debunking was so clear, so loud, frankly so public and he used his office and had people believing he was the one telling the truth even as he knew it was a lie. i appreciate your time.