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are not looking at a multi year conflict here. but yeah. the hatred that you hear from ukrainians who have lost family members, who've seen their homes torn apart by this war will run deep for generations. and talking to those men, as well, they've heard, too, some of the criticisms, some very public criticism from western officials about how the counter offense is being prosecuted. i think it does engender some anger, and frankly confusion as well, that some of their allies talking them down this early on in the counteroffensive. they know here that it is hard, that it is slow, that they are facing a pretty well dug in russian enemy. they are seeing some progress, certainly the stay around rob tina rabatina -- ukraine has now said it's moved into their, incremental progress. but at some point some of the small changes to odell, likely, in a bigger change in russia's ability to defend these frontlines. we might be seeing, possibly,