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>> fatal legal blow or political adrenaline shot? while trump's 14th amendment appeal is going to have a very big consequences, both in the courtroom and, of course, on the campaign trail. going to talk about it all, former white house senior adviser now your hike nayerra haq and -- democratic strategist in particular, you don't want the assumption that you are winning only because trump is not on the ballot. you want to be able to say, i beat you, trump, fair and square, again. is this problematic politically for them to have all these removals? >> who is going to argue about the fair and square, if he does