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that we've seen all over the world, conducted by i. s. i. s. and terrorists organizations. that seems, to me, more likely. but what's more interesting to me, the bigger picture issue here, is somebody might be trying to send a message to iran to stop it. you know, as we heard from ambassador bolton, the iranians are using their proxies in the red sea in gaza, obviously, in lebanon, across the border into israel, and there are sunnis who are on the other side of this, i want to stop iran. and there may be states, also, where maybe using proxies as well. >> which states would you -- >> i don't want to point fingers, but clearly, we know that iran has historic enemies. now they've all kind of reconciled, they're all diplomatically getting along, like saudi arabia and others in the gulf. but there may be actors who want to send a signal to iran to stop. i think, however, having said that, i don't know that the state would really condone this kind of action because of the target. >> fascinating. we'll wait to see it till we