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shotgun, 17-year-old student, a small caliber handgun as well. and there also was an improvised explosive device found at the scene. that's unusual. i mean, obviously, that occurred in columbine as well. >> yeah. i think the guns are fairly typical, what you would expect that a student, a child would be able to get access to in the home. we don't know where the guns came from. it's presumably he didn't purchase them himself. he is only 17 years old. he wouldn't be able to do that. these are probably firearms that he had access to in the home. but we'll find out as the investigation goes on. the use of the -- we have other shooters, the san bernardino, the numerous ids they left. but here what it really connects to for me is the possibility of

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