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[applause] >> catherine delphi is a professor of music here grandview. it's been great to be here these classed couple of days, at your school. a republican who says that she supports you, catherine go ahead. >> i kathryn. >> thank you for being here. >> of course. >> could you please explain to us your rationale for pardoning mr. trump when he has been associated with so much division and chaos in our country. >> when you talk about a pardon, the person has already been found guilty. when it comes to president, trump he still has to face, and we will find out whether he's guilty or not. but if you're talking about a pardon, you are assuming he's guilty. nobody gets pardoned if you're not guilty. for me it's not about guilt or innocence. it's about what is in the best interest for the country, i don't think our country will move forward with an