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successive time. so i don't see that would change in this regard. perhaps we will see him be convicted, but i don't see that changing his political support. he's shown a way of playing the martyr to his supporters. i think he's going to do that again. >> in a recent huff post piece, you and your colleagues wrote that republicans are -- your words now -- more pro insurrection than ever three years after the january 6th attack, saying, quote, in its immediate aftermath republicans criticized trump and held him responsible. now that's almost hard to believe. many have since recanted and endorsed his 2024 presidential bid. you were in the capitol that day. how and why do you think some in the party fhave shifted their positions so dramatically? >> you saw a glaring example of that this week where the latest

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