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of an official proceeding on january 6, 2021. jamie raskin: the whole purpose and obvious effect of trump's scheme were to obstruct, influence, and impede this official proceeding-- jake tapper: conspiracy to defraud the united states, conspiracy to make false statements and perhaps the most grave referral, the one for aiding or assisting an insurrection. jamie raskin: --anyone who incites others to engage in rebelling, assists them in doing so, or gives aid and comfort to those engaged in insurrection is guilty of a federal crime. jake tapapper: it's s a chare that may b be particulularly didifficult toto prove. ririchard dononoghue: you u e to h have criminal intent. here, you have the problem of proving what was in the president's mind. i've heard people say, well, he was willfully blind. should he have known? yes, but if he did not, i don't know that that's a crime. michael luttig: i said that--