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is she said -- her saying she's got black friends does not justify what she pulled on the stage recently. i laughed when she said nothing, it was absolutely right. nothing. i have black, friends i grew up here. so you grew up near a plantation response to do what? i'm telling, you the language of politics is dead. you have to talk straight to people. people are afraid to talk straight. >> reporter: angela, you have a new podcast coming out. tell us about it and, charlamagne i think is involved in this. why is this necessary at this moment? i think what he said throughout this interview, this is his messaging tonight. the language of politics is dead. and i think where i thrive, even to my detriment in some situations, is in truth. i don't like that either.