father of four who was also a crackco dane dealer who had a gun, illegal firearm, he did not fire it. this all started, it was like maybe it was kindling and someone threw a match on the fire. this is lawlessness. i'm kind of surprised that david cameron, he said this is new sound. didn't we do it yesterday? did the exact same thing. >> greg: this is not a stand. the will to prevent this isn't there. they are letting the city go. they think the longer they wait, it will die down. but the question to you, what if you are right? what if you are right that cutting expenditures leads to violence? what is the answer to that question? does it mean you never ever cut? that you hold society hostage by fear of hooliganism? what if you are correct? you might be right. how do you respond to that? >> bob: i'm always right. >> greg: how do you respond to that? >> bob: i will respond to