>> we are going back wards. you are trying to make advances and trying to bring unions in to a company that moves forward. we don't need them. >> wayne, last word, over all. unions 30 years ago and unions today. different time? >> i think there is a difference in philosophy. the workers make a lot of money and the workers should share in that. the capitalist share. you don't share that share. it is a bargaining tool. and in a free market society everyone bargains. and if there is a grevance and people are not treated properly yes, there is a reason for a otherwise there innocent. >> coming up. everybody. under water or over the top? new trend proving there is not