century ago. and at the same time i should note we are mismanaging our salmon stocks by chasing them around the ocean, open ocean and overharvesting salmon and many otherish species. we could learn from what the native americans did to husband their resources. >> john: and you say you can see the private property difference just by driving through some indian land. >> oh, it fascinating to drive-thru a reservation in the west. recently, i drove through the crow indian reservation in south central montana and when you would come to a fence line and on one side see over grazing, a few johnny cattle, maybe a house and if so -- a few scrawna and not a very liveable house. right next door, cultivated fields, irarery gaition systems, beautiful barn, home and so on and you don't even need to look at the property records to know that the productive one is held in private and the other one is