contest has to be a naturally born woman. >> bill: does it say that. in. >> yes. yes. and you know, the nfl has rules and the olympics have rules and you have to stick by the rules and those are the rules and a private organization has a right to set those rules. >> bill: what right does the miss universe panellent have to violate this -- pageant have to violate this lady's right to be a woman? they are saying because you weren't born a woman you don't have a right to be a woman. kind of complicated. she did what she had to do to become a woman. on her passport it says she is a woman and then this operation says we don't think you are. doesn't sound right to me. >> that is what it says right now. if you want to enter those are the rules. she knew that going in. she knew that going in. >> bill: and i agree with you. i think we all agree, even leslie, that private concerns have a right to make their own rules. the boy scouts proved that.